[FFe] gnomeradio NO SOUND, no /dev/mixer present

TV - FM analog card Leadtek

lspci
02:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
02:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)

Problem liked with absence of "/dev/mixer"

Bug similar to #Bug 605280 and Bug #605536

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Bug similar to Bug #619013

I'm affected by the same problem for tvtime due to a missing /dev/mixer.

My Leadtek card is:
02:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)

This issue has been present during the last development cycles (Karmic and/or Lucid) and fixed so I'm a bit surprised that this one pops upp again as an issue.

I'm affected from this bug as well,

But since ubuntu uses the new volume control almost al audio went tremendiously down.

Almost ALL multimedia applications are affected.
Since 9.10 ubuntu :
Does NOT DETECT ANYMORE THE Correct codes for HDA INTEL AUDIO. Only a pure very poor unsatisfactory basic settings wich often even not work at all when Motherboards are using all of many possible channels from chipsets. Example realteck 889A into asus or gigabyte Mb not supported. A work around possible is with sound options finding the correct settings for your audio card config and put them into alsa-base.conf located into /etc/modprobe.d the rule = options snd-hda-intel model= xxx where xxx is your card. But most codecs are not present. At the end you can find a setting wich is te best for you but it take a couple af days. Testing. On top of it the basic volume control does not recognize this settings and only and only use the basic unusable and unsatisfactory settings and there is no way or work around possible. With alsa mixer you can let it work at the end, But a lot off conflicts are happening.

I was hoping that Maverick would again improve and correct such stuff but still it's just the opposed, now almost NOTHING works anymore. Even the real needed oss simulations are all away.

IF multimedia is realy important like by me ubuntu is only good up to 9.04 as from 9.10 it's a pain in the ash . And things get worser the higher ubuntu version is.

All good programs like for example tvtime do not work anymore. Unless your apply many many patches and work arounds.

But as long ubuntu DOES NOT ADAPT THE BASIC VOLUME CONTROL to recognize and use the correct codecs OR AT LEAST MAKE A WAY TO force a certain codecs use it wil NEVER WORK GOOD.

So ubuntu without the need of good audio is very good. But if you need audio ubuntu just SUCKS . None off the bugs concerning audio are treated and if there is a change it just is worse.

About this last bug no /dev/mixer and so,

I now found out That kernel 2.6.35.21-generic config gives
CONFIG_SOUND=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE is not set
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_JACK=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m
# CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS is not set

So indeed oss emu not enabled. So just for test I took the linux kernel source 2.6.35.21 (the patched for ubuntu)
Used the original 2.6.35.21 config file but just enabled the oss support into it.
Then I compiled this with fakeroot,

The result now

CONFIG_SOUND=m
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE=y
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE_PRECLAIM=y
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_JACK=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y

And yes it all runs fine.
So the only thing which has to be done is enbale the oss into the next maverick generic kernel upgrade and this bug is
SOLVED

This also affects Quake3, padsp dosn't work with Quake3.

hello , Thank's for joining.

The problem is that the developpers from sound section, Dissabled all oss emulation into kernel. This because they try (and this is not easy) to let work everyrhing true pulse audio oss. Many persons already informed them that :

1) Pulse audio does not support many (even a majority) off HDA audio card's and there is no way to work around that by adding extra settings. This already causes bugs from start with the alsa-mixer which is required to let the audio work on HDA cards.

2) Alsa has the nice utility to give a line like:
 options snd-hda-intel model=asus-p5q (for me ) that asus may be a lot of cards depending which you have.

In to /etc/modprobe.d/ alsa-base.conf
Pulse audio disregard this setting and only uses the basic probed bios settings at boot time, since info from bios is limited, the wrong versions of audio card is selected leaving you with missing mixer inputs . Even worse wrong mixer handling are sometimes a result of this.

So long thet pulse audio is not further developped to support ALL audio card's Many users will be left without goud working sound.

The only remaining option we have now, is to download the latest patched ubuntu kernel source, reconfigure the kernel to include oss sound core and alsa oss emu pcm,mixer,sequencer. And compile it ourself. This does work out very well. For me the compilation of linux kernel takes about 01:10 Hr .

So yes When maverick will come's out and they leave it like that,
Many (if not the most) users using a lot of multimedia sound applications on ubuntu will have NOTHING.

The basic linux kernel IS NOT MADE TO WORK like they do for 10.10. It is not for nothing that oss-snd core is included into the kernel.

Al complains aubout this are falling into deaf ears, and answer's on the question to include it again are simply NO Without any argument,

That's it

And because of this, tvtime doesn't produce sound and I can't watch TV.
Solution is:
1. recompile kernel
2. connect tv card sound output to sound card input

Is there an easier solution? Yes, there is. UBUNTU TEAM ADD THE OSS SOUND CORE TO KERNEL ;-)

Hello,

Yes the solution is there, I already asked to reinclude oss core and oss emu end needed modules.

The answer i received just coldly NO !

read this bug at :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300

You see they asked to do it AND CREATED AN NOT COVERABLE BUG (NO WORK AROUND POSSIBLE) except recompiling your own kernel.

Wait until the final release of maverick, Once it starts to be the latest stable version Ubuntu's BUG report server will be overloaded
since most users will be left without working or good working audio.

Hello,

I dont know if that will help anyone but i found that in my case, even with connected TV Card and line in with a sound card i had no sound. Found out that i just didnt have a loopback module loaded. After loading it :
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8308073&postcount=3
I still get a warning about no mixer and cant use volume control in programs but have sound.

If thats useless sorry for spamming.

This problem exists in final release too.This is very annoying to see that all devices using Line-IN are not working in 10.10, while they worked well in 10.04.Compilation of kernel with a patch is not a task a average user can do.

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Bhupendra <email address hidden> wrote:
> This problem exists in final release too.This is very annoying to see
> that all devices using Line-IN are not working in 10.10, while they
> worked well in 10.04.

Why does the native ALSA virtual capture (plughw:X,Y) not suffice?

Not plughw:0 nor hw:0 works on gnomeradio:
sox -c 2 -s -r 44100 -t alsa hw:0 -t alsa -r 44100 -d & gnomeradio

By the way, what is the mixer on gconf for gnomeradio?

Please, test with the kernel customized on this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300

@VPablo speakers exploded on my face. awesome!! thank you so much! =)
I'm using TvTime with a Compro Vista M1F card... it works... video and sound works perfectly on my Maverick Meerkat.

That new kernel works for TvTime. I hope that goes into the main repository...

My card is connected to Line-in in sound card, and fortunately it works. Unfortunately, I had to unmute the input via alsamixer everytime I launched TVtime (as it is the only working tool for that) and mute after I finished watching TV. So I made a little script, you know what to do with it:)

#!/bin/sh

amixer set 'Line' 100% unmute
tvtime;
amixer set 'Line' 100% mute

Ok, I have make gnomeradio work with ALSA. On this page:
http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/5777157/Sintonizadora-K-World-PCI-TV-PVR-TV-7134SE-en-Linux.html
there is a solution. Make this script, as "/usr/local/bin/audioradio2.sh" p.e.:
-----------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
sox -r 32000 -t alsa hw:2,0 -t alsa hw:0,0 &
mpid=$!
gnomeradio
kill $mpid
-----------------------------------------------------------
Changing "hw:2,0" for your TV Card (1,0; 3,0; etc...) and for me works.

Hello pablo,

for gnome radio it's maybe a solution. But even then it's to processor intensif. For tv card itself it's a pain in the ass since there is a delay between image and sound. Off course i do not route out the sound to /dev/dsp in tv time. the only control we used was the /dev/mixer emu to untoggle the specified alsa mixer channel and change volume. My tv time card is connected to CD in from motherboard. Some connect it to line in by absence from other inputs. Then we don't have delay between image and sound and are not using (spoiling) valuable processor time. Sound can also be untoggled using alsa mixer. Or even better gnome-alsamixer.

Another option off course is the use of loopback into pulse, But since pulse does not support my sound card how it should be and there is no way to solve that. I do it straight trough alsa. On top of it you can't mixed several loopback inputs togheter with pulse Yes Pulse is very very far from complete.

Note: most new software use direct input into alsa . Tvtime and gnome radio are not under developpemnt anymore. For tv time there is a patch made to use direct hw:0:Line or CD instead of passing trough /dev/mixer . But I still did not found this patched version compiled for amd64 or the latest modified source to compile this myself. It seems to be called tvtime version 1.0.2-8sr... in ubuntu there is still version 1.0.2-6.

gr christophe

Yes, yes, I mean only gnomeradio and on my i5 CPU.

Thanks.

There is a patch for tvtime to support mixers from alsa devices:

http://www.stapelspeicher.org/tvtime/patches/experimental/

With that patch it supposed that you can use something like:

tvtime --mixer=hw:1/Line

I haven't tried that patch. I made a simple script for volume control

#!/bin/sh
DEVICE=hw:CARD=ICH5
CONTROL=iface=MIXER,numid=21
VOL=`amixer -D $DEVICE cget $CONTROL | grep ":" | cut -d"=" -f2 | cut -d"," -f1`
zenity --scale --value $VOL --print-partial --min-value=0 --max-value=31 --text Volumen --title "Volumen de TV" | xargs -n 1 amixer -D $DEVICE cset $CONTROL

from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tvtime

    * Published on 2010-08-29
Changelog
tvtime (1.0.2-6.1ubuntu1) maverick; urgency=low
  * Merge from Debian unstable, remaining changes:
    - Add quilt support.
    - debian/patches/tvtime-1.0.1-savematte.patch: tvtime does not rebember
      matte settings (LP: #313570).
    - debian/patches/desktop_file.patch: Fix docs/net-tvtime.desktop as
      Freedesktop.org's per-spec.
    - Add tvtime-1.0.2-alsa.patch to enable audio routing from external TV card;
    - debian/control: Build-depend on autoconf, automake, libasound2-dev,
      libtool.
    - debian/rules: Call autoreconf to re-generate the configure script.

this is other alsa patch

Can anyone identify and apply the magic patch for tvtime?

 Hopefully, tvtime will work with *alsa mixers by default.*

Cheers,

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Владимир <email address hidden> wrote:

> from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tvtime
>
> * Published on 2010-08-29
> Changelog
> tvtime (1.0.2-6.1ubuntu1) maverick; urgency=low
> * Merge from Debian unstable, remaining changes:
> - Add quilt support.
> - debian/patches/tvtime-1.0.1-savematte.patch: tvtime does not rebember
> matte settings (LP: #313570).
> - debian/patches/desktop_file.patch: Fix docs/net-tvtime.desktop as
> Freedesktop.org's per-spec.
> - Add tvtime-1.0.2-alsa.patch to enable audio routing from external TV
> card;
> - debian/control: Build-depend on autoconf, automake, libasound2-dev,
> libtool.
> - debian/rules: Call autoreconf to re-generate the configure script.
>
> this is other alsa patch
>
> --
> Rhythmbox FM plug-in, tvtime and gnomeradio NO SOUND, no /dev/mixer present
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/613809
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug (605280).
>

I tried the patch. Had a little trouble applying it to a stock tvtime, but it works!

Starting tvtime with: tvtime --mixer=hw:0/Line

In any case I think this bug is really a duplicate of #579300.

There is a hero who made a PPA for tvtime with alsamixer

Read more here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300/comments/90

And it works !!!

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Psychotron <email address hidden>wrote:

> I tried the patch. Had a little trouble applying it to a stock tvtime,
> but it works!
>
> Starting tvtime with: tvtime --mixer=hw:0/Line
>
>
> In any case I think this bug is really a duplicate of #579300.
>
> --
> Rhythmbox FM plug-in, tvtime and gnomeradio NO SOUND, no /dev/mixer present
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/613809
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug (605280).
>

A little modification on my script for using pulse instead alsa and the opportunity to streaming it by pulseaudio and mixing with other sounds:
----------------------------
#!/bin/sh
sox -r 32000 -t alsa hw:2,0 -t alsa pulse &
mpid=$!
gnomeradio
kill $mpid
----------------------------
Please, test it.

Thank you but this is a HACK, and its CPU intensive

Teh devs should have warned us about Maverick being broken.

We wouldnt have upgraded.

What about the quake based games ? What about the missing and promised OSSP
?

Too bad,

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:14 PM, VPablo <email address hidden> wrote:

> A little modification on my script for using pulse instead alsa and the
> opportunity to streaming it by pulseaudio and mixing with other sounds:
> ----------------------------
> #!/bin/sh
> sox -r 32000 -t alsa hw:2,0 -t alsa pulse &
> mpid=$!
> gnomeradio
> kill $mpid
> ----------------------------
> Please, test it.
>
> --
> Rhythmbox FM plug-in, tvtime and gnomeradio NO SOUND, no /dev/mixer present
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/613809
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug (605280).
>

this is not a rhythmbox issue so I will close it for now (sorry for the noise).

I also try to use tvtime and cannot get any sound with my Pinnacle PCTV 310i . I have specially searched for bought this rather old card because the number of web references that it works under Linux.

I get channels, get video but have no sound and this card has no separate audio output to connect to the audio input on the motherboard. The card shows up in various ALSA settings, can be selected, tvtime delivers both television and S-Video capture data but no any sound is heard. I tried the hacks proposed here but so far this is not helpful. Enjoying video without sound and hoping for the best.

I suppose there should be a kernel module to handle the audio, if there is
no wire to get audio by audiocard input jack.

Not sure though

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Audrius Meskauskas <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> I also try to use tvtime and cannot get any sound with my Pinnacle PCTV
> 310i . I have specially searched for bought this rather old card because
> the number of web references that it works under Linux.
>
> I get channels, get video but have no sound and this card has no
> separate audio output to connect to the audio input on the motherboard.
> The card shows up in various ALSA settings, can be selected, tvtime
> delivers both television and S-Video capture data but no any sound is
> heard. I tried the hacks proposed here but so far this is not helpful.
> Enjoying video without sound and hoping for the best.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug (605280).
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/613809
>
> Title:
> Rhythmbox FM plug-in, tvtime and gnomeradio NO SOUND, no /dev/mixer
> present
>

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

The tvtime bug was fixed in Ubuntu 11.04/Natty: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tvtime/+bug/680386

Lack of /dev/mixer is not a bug in alsa-driver.

Confirming this bug is still present for gnomeradio in 12.04/Precise. Starting with padsp may be the possible workaround:
padsp gnomeradio

To adjusting the volume in ubuntu 12.04 LTS, load snd_mixer_oss module:

sudo modprobe snd_mixer_oss

and restart.

Voila, you can change volume from Gnomeradio UI.

The new systems, throwing the OSS, and there is no /dev/mixer.

I write a patch to support for looping back audio through ALSA devices ( including mixer control ).

Should be tested in several types of tv/fm tuners and then all the work will be made ​​public.

Package for ubuntu is here: https://launchpad.net/~geoubuntu/+archive/test

Best regards.

OK. I installed gnomeradio 64 bit from https://launchpad.net/~geoubuntu/+archive/test and after I set mixer to hw:0/Line for my ICH5 sound card, I can change volume level. Thanks.

Gnomeradio + alsa

Confirm that build of geoubuntu work with my PixelView PlayTV USB Hybrid
I installed gnomeradio from https://launchpad.net/~geoubuntu/+archive/test-ppa and now I have sound and can control volume mixer in gnomeradio. Thanks.

What's the status of getting the patch upstreamed?

The gnomeradio upstream is dead for years. There is no big chance for them to produce a new release.

According to its developer, gnomeradio is not under active development anymore.

OK. FFe approved.

This bug was fixed in the package gnomeradio - 1.8-2ubuntu8

---------------
gnomeradio (1.8-2ubuntu8) raring; urgency=low

  * debian/patches/gnomeradio-alsa.patch: Added support for looping back audio
    through alsa devices. (LP: #1154029)
  * debian/patches/gnomeradio-alsamixer.patch: Added support to use the ALSA
    mixer APIs. (LP: #613809)
  * debian/patches/gnomeradio-media_profile.patch: Replaced GnomeMediaProfile
    with GstEncodingProfile. (LP: #1154028)
  * debian/patches/gnomeradio-documentation.patch: Use new documentation
    infrastructure. (LP: #1091476)
  * debian/rules: Removed obsolete --disable-scrollkeeper configure flag.
  * debian/control: Build-Depends: added libasound2-dev, yelp-tools, removed
    libgnome-media-profiles-dev, gnome-doc-utils, scrollkeeper.
 -- POJAR GEORGE <email address hidden> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 10:18:52 +0000

It seems that gnomeradio is dead from upstream:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788626

Is there any program to listen the radio via PCI card like gnomeradio?