Notification about changing time (summer time - winter time)

Bug #550149 reported by MaLaGasy
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One Hundred Papercuts
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Bug Description

it should be great to have a notification, or something visible by the user when he starts his computer, to make us known that the time on the computer has changed automatically to summer time or winter one.

I don't think it's difficult to fix :) .. thanks for your great job

MaLaGasy (mal-agasy)
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Hercules_100_98 (hercules-100-98) wrote :

Agreed, a small but useful improvement.

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
status: New → Confirmed
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David Siegel (djsiegel-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Why do I need a notification to tell me this?

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Vish (vish) wrote :

As David mentions , Why is this notification essential?
Also to note is that this bug affects only certain locales which use daylight savings , not a papercut per-se

For further information about papercuts criteria, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut.

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
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MaLaGasy (mal-agasy) wrote :

In my mind, it's really useful to have notification on each computer when there's any changes done on it without any action from us .. there's a notification when we connect to the network, etc .. then why not when our system's local clock has changed?

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Hercules_100_98 (hercules-100-98) wrote :

As the original poster said, the system is making a change on its own, which should warrant a notification.

What if the system location has been set incorrectly? (easy to do). The time will be updated automatically, when it shouldn't have. A notification to the user will allow them to pick up on this.

Granted is may not fit the description of a papercut. More of a wishlist item, but it is useful.

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MaLaGasy (mal-agasy) wrote :

more detailed, itemized definition, a paper cut is:

- A bug, or an unintended problem occurring within an existing piece of software

The clocks’ setting are changing automatically twice a year without our approval

- the presence of which makes a computer more difficult or less pleasant to use

This changes are really unpleasant as you need to verify twice if you do need to modify your time or that you believe is was done by the system (that’s why a confirmation should be great)

- that is easy to fix,

as it’s a minor bug, it should be easy to fix, but I am perhaps wrong

- that the average user would encounter...

@Vish: i do not doubt about your knowledge of which part of population in the world has got this time changes, but you should take a fast look on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

Most of people who are using computers are on the EMEA and North America’s areas. Then in my mind, that’s enough to say that the average users is affected by this bug.

- in a default installation of Ubuntu or Kubuntu, Desktop Edition.

I am using Ubuntu, and it affects probably other ubuntu based version's users

 << If a potential paper cut fails to meet any of the criteria above, it is not a paper cut. >>

Then, is this bug still not approved as a paper cut one?

Thanks

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Vish (vish) wrote :

"Most of people who are using computers are on the EMEA and North America’s areas."
Thats a pretty big assumption ;-)
Anyways , my main concern still remains that we are *not* solving any problem here.

"The clocks’ setting are changing automatically twice a year without our approval"
This is more of a feature than a problem. User doesnt have to bother to change the time in the system. Isnt that good?
The system is smart enough to know the time changes and does it automatically! Now should the system prompt "Hei , look i did it , I'm smart" ;p
This is part of the clock ticking , why should this be treated any different?
The user already knows time has changed, Why should the notification inform the user that the time has changed in the system [ the system time is not the first thing the user will check for time changes ]?

The notification here just seems like a personal preference than to solve any problem. [the system time updating is not a problem :) ]

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Hercules_100_98 (hercules-100-98) wrote :

Vish,

I don't think its a matter of the system telling the user how clever it is, its just a confirmation (and possibly a gentle reminder) that the system time has correctly been adjusted.

To re-iterate my example of how this might cause problems....

Lets say you live where DST is not observed, but have the location incorrectly set to a location that does. One day you notice that your system time is out by an hour. You fix it, but it happens again in 6 months... you begin to wonder why your computer can't keep time...

A notification would allow the user to see why this is happening.

And if nothing else, you'd be suprised how many people can be oblivious to DST changes. This change might get people to work on time......

The system time updating isn't a problem, but that's not to say it can't be improved...

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MaLaGasy (mal-agasy) wrote :

@ Vish, am I wrong to remind what is the bug number 1?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1

it looks like a "personal preference" also, but it's still a bug ;)

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Danielle Foré (danrabbit) wrote :

@ Hercules

Then, you are referring to a bug where the system doesn't suggest a time zone based on your current location. Lets focus on solving the problems, not the symptoms.

@ MaLaGasy

I don't think this is relevant in any way to bug1 (which to be honest isn't really a bug and is more of a troll than anything).

I can't really see how this is a legitimate bug and I'm going to have to side with Vish in saying that this is how the system is supposed to work and thus you should not get a notification. Notifications are for things that are out of the ordinary.

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Vish (vish) wrote :

Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. However, a paper cut should be a small usability issue, in the default Ubuntu install, that affects many people and is quick and easy to fix. So this bug can't be addressed as part of this project.

- This is a feature request and not a papercut.
For further information about papercuts criteria, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut.

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
status: Incomplete → Invalid
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