What they did on Ubuntu with Unity is what here in Brazil peoples say that
someone had "defecate and sit on top".
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, elian <email address hidden> wrote:
> I am posting this here because I know Mark is reading..
>
> I have always been interested in linux ever since I downloaded root and
> boot floppies for kernel version 0.97 in the 90's. I have tried linux
> on and off over the years and always found it to be unstable, lacking
> support - at least until i found Ubuntu. I have been a Ubuntu supporter
> since version 7 because it was the first distro I loaded that no matter
> what kind of desktop I threw at it, it ALWAYS seemed to load no problem
> and it offered a great set of featured applications right out of the box
> (ever try that with Windows installs?). Versions up through 8 or 9 I
> could even load on older PC's..I had 8.04 running on a P-II 450MHZ
> machine and a 233Mhz bondi blue iMac Rev A - avoided having to throw
> that hardware in the trash. I also appreciated the corporate philosophy
> of wanting to make software freely available to all people.
>
> Lately however, I have come to realize that with every new release
> support for older hardware is going away, increased graphic requirements
> and processing power are now a prerequisite..that's a sad thing to me
> because a lot of the software you are running like "openoffice" really
> doesn't need compositing and more advanced features. I've tried Xbuntu
> but I think a lot of users prefer a more polished interface..and gnome
> was just right..not too much..not too little...if you happened to have a
> GPU with good OpenGL support then you could have the eye candy, but
> otherwise it defaulted back to a usable generic system and that was
> great.
>
> I have more than one netbook and I thought that the netbook remix
> launcher was really cool for that platform, big ol' clunky "fisher
> price" icons, great for people not used to a desktop too - and there,
> on such a small screen playing with the window controls makes sense.
> However I'm afraid that I just don't care for Unity on the desktop.
>
> You are trying to simplify the desktop interface? How is Unity
> "simpler" than having three simple drop down menus at the top of the
> screen that say "Applications", "Places" and "Settings" ? How is
> hiding the standard close, minimize, maximize buttons until you mouse
> over them "simpler" ? How is replacing the application menu with a
> composited, compartmentalized display with a ton of
> expand/collapse/close window controls "simpler" ?
>
> You are combining like the worst features of the windows vista start
> menu with the worst features of the OS X dock, and somehow the team
> believes that is an improvement? I used to recommend Ubuntu to ALL of
> my windows friends because it was RELIABLE (compared to windows) and the
> gnome desktop really WAS simpler than windows, very little learning
> curve. Now I can't really imagine anyone who is used to MS Windows
> being able to pick up how to navigate in Ubuntu without some serious
> tutoring help. You've just created the need to prompt first time users
> to go through an online training course.
>
> Actually that's not a bad idea, if you want people to feel comfortable
> then be the first distro that offers to walk people through the
> application interface (ala - remote control style) when they log on for
> the first time.
>
> I like unity on my netbook, but I am really disappointed running it on
> my full screen desktop. I am really disappointed in the direction this
> product is going.
>
> I upgraded to 11.10 and whenever I log on now I get a warning about not
> being able to find a proper scan mode..I wanted to get you the actual
> message but it is taking a while to open a terminal since I tried to
> click on the dash button and it took five seconds to load the menu,
> tried to click "More Apps" and it wouldn't do anything, clicked the
> Maximize button, it shaded the full screen and then I clicked "More
> Apps" again and it finally showed "SOMETHING" on the screen, but still
> now terminal - so I searched for terminal - and it found 7 things that
> "said" terminal so I clicked the one that said "terminal" but I didn't
> see that it was in the list of things that could be downloaded and
> installed and not in the list of things that were already installed..all
> of this JUST to open the terminal and view the X server logs??? You
> have GOT to be kidding right.. Oh and by the way, my system used to
> shut down practically instantaneously - now it just sits there for about
> 20 seconds after I click "Yes I want to shut down" and finally things
> start "blinking away" until the ubuntu logo comes up again.. I'm very
> disappointed. I just searched for and clicked to start the text editor
> so I could paste this in case the web interface hiccuped when I try to
> post and the text editor didn't even appear on my screen - are you
> kidding me? I started it a second time and it finally appeared. Is
> there a problem with my video chipset that is causing all of these
> issues.. I'm sorry Mark, I can't recommend Ubuntu anymore..windows now
> has a more reliable UI.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> duplicate bug report (821156).
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/668415
>
> Title:
> Movement of Unity launcher
>
> Status in NULL Project:
> Invalid
> Status in Unity:
> Won't Fix
> Status in Ubuntu:
> Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> Please consider this a possible feature request or wishlist.
>
> Now when Unity will be default desktop for 11.04 could you please
> consider to add option to configure Unity launcher placement. Add
> simple option to lock/unlock through right-click menu and drag
> launcher to desired location like left/right and bottom.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/null/+bug/668415/+subscriptions
>
What they did on Ubuntu with Unity is what here in Brazil peoples say that
someone had "defecate and sit on top".
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, elian <email address hidden> wrote:
> I am posting this here because I know Mark is reading.. .that's a sad thing to me collapse/ close window controls "simpler" ? /bugs.launchpad .net/bugs/ 668415 /bugs.launchpad .net/null/ +bug/668415/ +subscriptions
>
> I have always been interested in linux ever since I downloaded root and
> boot floppies for kernel version 0.97 in the 90's. I have tried linux
> on and off over the years and always found it to be unstable, lacking
> support - at least until i found Ubuntu. I have been a Ubuntu supporter
> since version 7 because it was the first distro I loaded that no matter
> what kind of desktop I threw at it, it ALWAYS seemed to load no problem
> and it offered a great set of featured applications right out of the box
> (ever try that with Windows installs?). Versions up through 8 or 9 I
> could even load on older PC's..I had 8.04 running on a P-II 450MHZ
> machine and a 233Mhz bondi blue iMac Rev A - avoided having to throw
> that hardware in the trash. I also appreciated the corporate philosophy
> of wanting to make software freely available to all people.
>
> Lately however, I have come to realize that with every new release
> support for older hardware is going away, increased graphic requirements
> and processing power are now a prerequisite.
> because a lot of the software you are running like "openoffice" really
> doesn't need compositing and more advanced features. I've tried Xbuntu
> but I think a lot of users prefer a more polished interface..and gnome
> was just right..not too much..not too little...if you happened to have a
> GPU with good OpenGL support then you could have the eye candy, but
> otherwise it defaulted back to a usable generic system and that was
> great.
>
> I have more than one netbook and I thought that the netbook remix
> launcher was really cool for that platform, big ol' clunky "fisher
> price" icons, great for people not used to a desktop too - and there,
> on such a small screen playing with the window controls makes sense.
> However I'm afraid that I just don't care for Unity on the desktop.
>
> You are trying to simplify the desktop interface? How is Unity
> "simpler" than having three simple drop down menus at the top of the
> screen that say "Applications", "Places" and "Settings" ? How is
> hiding the standard close, minimize, maximize buttons until you mouse
> over them "simpler" ? How is replacing the application menu with a
> composited, compartmentalized display with a ton of
> expand/
>
> You are combining like the worst features of the windows vista start
> menu with the worst features of the OS X dock, and somehow the team
> believes that is an improvement? I used to recommend Ubuntu to ALL of
> my windows friends because it was RELIABLE (compared to windows) and the
> gnome desktop really WAS simpler than windows, very little learning
> curve. Now I can't really imagine anyone who is used to MS Windows
> being able to pick up how to navigate in Ubuntu without some serious
> tutoring help. You've just created the need to prompt first time users
> to go through an online training course.
>
> Actually that's not a bad idea, if you want people to feel comfortable
> then be the first distro that offers to walk people through the
> application interface (ala - remote control style) when they log on for
> the first time.
>
> I like unity on my netbook, but I am really disappointed running it on
> my full screen desktop. I am really disappointed in the direction this
> product is going.
>
> I upgraded to 11.10 and whenever I log on now I get a warning about not
> being able to find a proper scan mode..I wanted to get you the actual
> message but it is taking a while to open a terminal since I tried to
> click on the dash button and it took five seconds to load the menu,
> tried to click "More Apps" and it wouldn't do anything, clicked the
> Maximize button, it shaded the full screen and then I clicked "More
> Apps" again and it finally showed "SOMETHING" on the screen, but still
> now terminal - so I searched for terminal - and it found 7 things that
> "said" terminal so I clicked the one that said "terminal" but I didn't
> see that it was in the list of things that could be downloaded and
> installed and not in the list of things that were already installed..all
> of this JUST to open the terminal and view the X server logs??? You
> have GOT to be kidding right.. Oh and by the way, my system used to
> shut down practically instantaneously - now it just sits there for about
> 20 seconds after I click "Yes I want to shut down" and finally things
> start "blinking away" until the ubuntu logo comes up again.. I'm very
> disappointed. I just searched for and clicked to start the text editor
> so I could paste this in case the web interface hiccuped when I try to
> post and the text editor didn't even appear on my screen - are you
> kidding me? I started it a second time and it finally appeared. Is
> there a problem with my video chipset that is causing all of these
> issues.. I'm sorry Mark, I can't recommend Ubuntu anymore..windows now
> has a more reliable UI.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> duplicate bug report (821156).
> https:/
>
> Title:
> Movement of Unity launcher
>
> Status in NULL Project:
> Invalid
> Status in Unity:
> Won't Fix
> Status in Ubuntu:
> Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> Please consider this a possible feature request or wishlist.
>
> Now when Unity will be default desktop for 11.04 could you please
> consider to add option to configure Unity launcher placement. Add
> simple option to lock/unlock through right-click menu and drag
> launcher to desired location like left/right and bottom.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https:/
>
--
Fernando