Comment 45 for bug 323041

First of all, i'd like to note that you have not followed up on any procedural violations that you have made in reverting. Maybe it's a good thing, because frankly i'm sure you can make up more excuses, but i don't have time to argue about it.
It is becoming clear from every single post you make and every single action you take in this particular matter, that you are acting like a saboteur.
I'll go back to clarify 1 more detail first.
Earlier, i wrote:
> When after a year or so of no action, you were asked to approve my
> account by freedesktop.org, you ignored it for another 4 months, and then
> again gave some kind of excuse.
What i should have mentioned as well, is that even after you were asked to approve my account, and 4 additional months passed, you didn't do or say anything about that account anyway, until freedesktop.org tried to close that account bug as too old, and i re-opened it. That was my first encounter with you. It was followed by your sabotage of Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) layouts 2 months ago. And now you are continuing down the same path.

Now on your last consistently-abusive action and post:

(In reply to comment #9)
> Political issues have nothing to here (I am half-Tatar, fyi). I just do not
> want keep the codebase maintainable.
I think i'd seen a post from you somewhere way back where i saw you mentioning that, and perhaps one of your parents really is a Volga Tatar, but of course it makes no difference whatsoever with regards to the matter at hand. You may be half gold, and half platinum, or 100% gold or platinum, and it still won't change the fact that you apparently are a subject of a country that has
for centuries practiced ethnic cleansing, deportation, and genocide of Crimean
Tatars, and suppression of their rights (whose present treatment of minorities and dissidents is well known), and it also won't change your track record with regards to this issue.
>
> > Are you not objecting to a single crh
> Yes.
Why am i not surpised.
>
> > If you are, what can countryList contribute then?
> If you create ua(crt), you still have ability to add countryList to that
> variant (in base.xml). Then it's up to GUI (if it does not handle that scenario
> correctly, it should be fixed).

You must have brought this up only to waste my time and muddy up the water.
1. This is not how it's done for other locales. You are effectively treating Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale as 2nd class.
2. AFAIK, and this is probably a well known fact but i'm going to be conservative and not state that assertively, the majority or all keyboard GUIs do not reflect variant keyboard layouts not defined under the particular country. Again, this shows that you are effectively treating Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale as 2nd class.
3. Even if some GUIs now do something w/ countryList for variant keyboards, leaving some or most other GUIs out, would again be equivalent to treating Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale as 2nd class.

> About the countries. Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars, I
> see it would be perfectly sane to add that variant just to the Ukraine, since
> Uzbekistan, Turkey and Romania have much smaller populations

4. Romania requires customizations and thus is not up to discussion.
5. Uzbekistan and Turkey populations are very significant, and therefore are not up to discussion either.
5.1. The stats in Wikipedia in this regard can't really be trusted, partly because data for some countries isn't really known, and partly because there are other much different stats around. For instance,
http://www.joshuaproject.net/peoples.php?rop3=102312
shows that Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) populations of Ukraine and Uzbekistan are essentially equal in number, and it shows that the population in Turkey is twice as big as what Wikipedia shows in its minimalistic guesstimate.
The same article that you mentioned also mentions the number of 5 million Crimean Tatars (Crimean Turks) for Turkey:
search for "There are 5,000,000 people".
Elsewhere, Wikipedia itself also mentions a number of 1 million for Turkey:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatar_diaspora
5.2. Some estimates used in Western sources, in Turkey and in Russian media indicate that there are millions (up to 6 million) of Crimean Tatars (Crimean Turks) in Turkey. Here are some such references:
5.2.1. 3-to-5 million:
http://books.google.com/books?id=S8YakB12QEUC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=Crimean+Tatars+in+Turkey+million&source=bl&ots=1221M6j2Oj&sig=yh8jFCinmDHpiHHq8EKdnZ7k3Qg&hl=tr&ei=_cjSSafAD4yKtAPWlIn1Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result
5.2.2. 6 million:
http://www.iccrimea.org/scholarly/jankowski.html
5.2.3. 5 million:
http://www.answers.com/topic/crimean-tatars
5.2.4. Mentioning of 1.25 million fleeing to Turkey in 1917-1918:
http://www.hunmagyar.org/turan/caucasus/krim.html
5.3. Russian media, including Russian media in Crimea itself, has mentioned the number of 5 million Crimean Tatars (Crimean Turks) in Turkey, as referenced here:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kirimdernegi.org%2Fistanbul%2Fbahcesaray%2Fpdf%2FBahcesaray-52.pdf&ei=IM3SSerVBqLitAOG18n5Cw&usg=AFQjCNEpA8lCAO0izTcUHMHk-7lGKJNLlw&sig2=dlOAK3v67fcAI67T4iI-AA
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To wrap up, none of the 4 countries can be dismissed.

> Since you're saying you're not interested in further discussion, I am closing
> this one. Feel free to reopen if you're ready to discuss.

a. I never said i'm not interested in discussion. I said you acted (and frankly you continue to act) showing that YOU are not interested in discussion.
b. It must take a great lot of nerve to ignore this bug for 1.5 months, not answer on one's procedural violations and hostile behavior, and then on the first post after that, close the bug as Invalid.

Now let's see what i said:
"It is very unfortunate that after expelling the people from their lands, the
keyboard layouts have now been expelled from the files of the countries where
the people ended up settling down, by somebody who is apparently a subject of
the country that expelled the people. The notion of conflict of interest
doesn't even begin to describe this. I think this behavior may not be your
fault individually, and if your grew up and lived in a different country,
ceteris paribus, you probably would not be behaving like this, but that doesn't
change the reality.

To wrap up, based on your ignoring and unwelcoming at first, and now hostile
behavior, and the fact that you apparently are a subject of a country that has
for centuries practiced ethnic cleansing, deportation, and genocide of Crimean
Tatars, and suppression of their rights, i do not have any trust in your
ability and even willingness to handle this matter objectively, to say the
least, and you might well have ulterior motives."

Your recent actions reinforce this impression, so i still "do not have any trust in your ability and even willingness to handle this matter objectively". Given this situation, i'm not sure yet how this issue will be resolved, but i'm 100% sure that you do not have any right to close this bug as Invalid. It now appears to be quite clear that there is no point in trying to contribute here in this environment at this time, and frankly i don't have any more time to waste on you (after all of my time that you have wasted), given that i can actually peacefully and effectively contribute in various other endeavors of which there are so many. However, one way or another this issue will have to be resolved, and only then can this bug be closed. The solution to this issue will probably require participation of objective persons. In an objective, peaceful and constructive environment, i am ready to discuss this issue with objective and constructive people, and unfortunately you are not such a person.