Comment 13 for bug 332945

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Vincenzo Ciancia (vincenzo-ml) wrote : Re: [Jaunty] Removal of Update Notifier is WRONG

As my previous comment may sound more aggressive than it is, let me explain this a bit better. Quoting from above

"But seriously, we did not design this behavior yesterday on the back of a napkin. We discussed it publicly at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in December."

And quoting from the top

"Specific messages worth reading are:

  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html"

None of these messages contains ubuntu-devel-discuss as the target. That wouldn't probably suffice anyway. In my opinion, ubuntu is a successful distribution because of the effort of the community in publicising it. If it looses community consensus it may die. The effort of people is not for free: big changes should be discussed with the active community in my opinion, not just with the developers.

That's my 2 cents, and what I would really like to see. I contributed a lot of my free time in the past but I am really getting "pissed off" by serious regressions not being taken care of because changes have to be introduced, and by disruptive changes which most users won't like, that "can not be reverted because we are too late in the development cycle, and have already been discussed in <insert here a place which is not commonly accessed, or accessible at all, by users>"

More public discussion, and even being keen to change "ubuntu's mind" on some topics, would help a lot in the relationships between the community and ubuntu itself.

No aggressive tone intended here. Ubuntu is still yours more than mine, and if I really wanted to I could even fork it.