Comment 13 for bug 202456

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André Pirard (a.pirard) wrote : Re: [Bug 202456] Re: Gnome wine runs all programs without window's minimize button

> Ok, then you're using metacity. I can't reproduce this with KWin 4.1, so
> I'm assigning the bug to metacity
I have added xubuntu.desktop and kubuntu.desktop to this system.

Kubuntu : no problem indeed with KWin.
Xubuntu : same problem with Xfwm4.

Hence, by the same reasoning, you should assign the bug to Xfwm4 too.

As I understand it, there is a misunderstanding between Wine and both
Metacity and Xfwm but not KWin.
When I turn off "Allow the wm to control the window" I, in fact, allow
Wine to do it instead of the host's wm.
Hence, Wine knows no better than to minimize windows on the desktop.
Moreover, it does it in a rough way (overlays panel, random way and
place, ugly look, no control at all, etc...).
This point could be improved in Wine.

As in all protocol misunderstanding cases, it's uncertain to me which
side is responsible.

I have attached the xprop output in all cases : SS_<wm>_<ws>.txt
where ws is the state of the aforementioned Wine
Configuration|Graphics|Allow... settings

11 is post-installation standard state (host does both)
10 is my half-workaround (wm does not control the window)

Hoping this will help.

André.

PS : hoping I can do it in one go this time, else please excuse disorder :-)