Comment 89 for bug 579300

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yota (yota-opensystems) wrote :

@David Henningsson:

under the release notes of MythTV 0.24 ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.24 )
you can read:

   Bug Fixes
   Fix ALSA mixer to open correct device when multiple devices are present [24864]
   Fix potential issue with multi-channel ordering when seeking/pausing if using OSS [25878] <- LOOK: ACTIVE OSS DEVELOPMENT IN 2010!!! THIS IS MADNESS! ;-)
   Fix support for snd-bt87x via ALSA [26261] <- ***THIS ONE***
   Many additional bugs fixed as part of the audio refactor/re-write mentioned below

My tv card is a BT878 (I believe nearly 50% of tv cards in my country have a BT87X). The problem is that you can't get audio recorded from the device on mythtv 0.23 without OSS emul.
And let me politely add that saying that "MythTV has had some kind of ALSA support" doesn't imply that it works, right?
Even if MythTV gets fixed what if I would like to play Unreal Tournament 2004? Probably no sound there too, and no developer to ask for a patch.

But again we are speaking about applications where a really simple solution exists elsewhere.
Removing OSS broke everything that was relying on it... quite simple, isn't it?
Probably we can't possibly enumerate here or be aware of every single application in the wild that is using it, but the number of posts in this bug report should state that problems about this removal are real, not limited to a specific application, not related to user mistakes and mostly unrecoverable without complex operations.

To reintroduce the feature in 11.04 doesn't cure the fact the issue is here now, and surely there are lots of users that don't bother to write bug reports that are experiencing that "audio just doesn't work".

I can understand that changes to kernel config can't be made lightly so before actually asking anything specific I was tryng to investigate if it can be agreed that a separate blacklist package would be a satisfying solution for everyone.

Still it bugs me a bit that no compelling reason to burn the bridges and prevent an OSS de-blacklist fallback was shown...

p.s. please pardon my jokes and a bit of, I hope constructive, polemic