Comment 76 for bug 579300

SOLUTION: provide a PPA containing a custom OSS enabled kernel

How about that ?

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Psychotron <email address hidden>wrote:

> So OSS doesn't support some advanced features? Sure. But why does that
> mean OSS support needs to be broken? If users of some OSS-only app want
> these features, they can bug the authors to add support for PA or
> whatever.
>
> As for grabbing devices exclusively, I'm under the impression that it's
> possible for a long time to allow even OSS apps to access devices in
> parallel with ALSA. At least I haven't had problems with that for years
> now.
>
> Space for these three modules is 124K on my system....
>
> And really: in this particular case I don't understand the necessity of
> the removal. It's not that OSS is a system foundation and it's just too
> limited for the future. It's just an ADDON. You can safely ignore it if
> your apps all use ALSA. If you want to get it out of the main kernel,
> then at least provide it as a separate package, e.g. using DKMS.
>
> Besides the fact, that aoss (and possibly padsp) does not really work,
> it's also much less comfortable. OSS emulation modules "just work", with
> aoss you have to find out about it first. Then find out what and how to
> change. Probably nothing the average user is able to.
>
> And sure there are guides to compile a kernel. Still it's not exactly a
> 5min job. And when will this advanced kernel build system see the light
> of day? Nobody knows? That's not a great base for an alternative
> solution. And again: it takes hours! On every update! I don't want to
> imagine how log it takes on a netbook... And what for? For three tiny
> modules!
>
> Also in my experience with Ubuntu it's unfortunately only partly
> possible to stick with an LTS release. There is just always a breakage
> wich is only fixed in the next release. In my example with Lucid the
> broken radeon driver. Also sometimes you just need a newer version of
> some software. E.g. the latest KDE is only supported for the last two
> Ubuntu releases or so. So you want to tell users: Sorry you can't
> upgrade to a newer desktop shell, if you want to keep the mixer of you
> TV app working?
>
> So telling users to stick with LTS is only partly an option. Let alone
> that I don't have much faith everything will be fixed with say the next
> LTS.
>
> The solution is pretty simple: readd the modules in some way or another!
> It hurts nobody (unless proved otherwise) and every other "solution" is
> just inferior.
>
> PS: In my case the app is tvtime and what doesn't work is the mixer
> (i.e. adjusting volume).
>
> --
> Please disable CONFIG_SOUND_OSS* and CONFIG_SND_*OSS*
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/579300
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