Comment 312 for bug 204996

Check out bug 248591....just was informed that "

The Ubuntu Kernel Team is planning to move to the 2.6.27 kernel for the
upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. As a result, the kernel team would
appreciate it if you could please test this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel.

"

Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> Ben Collins wrote:
>
>> Upstream doesn't care about testing 2.6.24 any more.
>>
> But it is useful for us to assess if an issue was introduced in patches
> we added to that stable release, or if it was there already.
>
>> They want us to help test tip.
>>
> Sure, which is why we should make tip available for both stable and
> development releases (currently Hardy and Intrepid).
>
>> Besides, there's no good base to say "corresponds to hardy's kernel"
>> because we stopped syncing at like 2.6.24.2, but we have lots of
>> cherry picks for CVE's and SRU's from 2.6.24.y beyond .2. So hardy is
>> currently > 2.6.24.2 but < 2.6.24.y head.
>>
> Then choose either .2 or .y, I would go with .2 personally, and I would
> also try not to stop syncing, though I understand there are ABI issues.
>
>
>> So it wouldn't even be beneficial to us to provide a "stock" kernel
>> for hardy users. It wouldn't tell us the difference between .y fixing
>> it, or stock working because we have a bad patch.
>>
> But .2 would tell us that.
>
>
>> Ubuntu-next we've already started with. I'm quite reluctant to provide
>> it in a PPA. Upstream constantly complains about the quality of bug
>> reports from our users, and I fear that this would increase it because
>> of non-technical users trying these kernels and not being able to
>> properly help debug them.
>>
> I think we should DROP ubuntu-next. It's more work than any other
> option, it's bugs are of no interest to upstream OR US.
>
>
>> IMO, if we really want this PPA stuff, we need more man-power on the
>> QA and engineering end of it. Just making it available isn't useful at
>> all and would probably cause the reverse with upstream than what you
>> want.
>>
> Please nonetheless put these into your plan, with or without ubuntu-next.
>
>
>> On a similar note, I've considering putting out the idea of adding the
>> LP bugzilla plug-in to upstream kernel to make it easier for us to
>> forward good bug reports upstream.
>>
>
> That would rock indeed :-)
>
> Mark
>
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