Comment 688 for bug 88746

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In , stern (stern-linux-kernel-bugs) wrote :

> That's what I call hard to track and elusive. Does that mean there's no bug?
> No. If there's a bug, even if hard to track, I think there should be an entry
> for it. All this talk about keeping a log only for reproducible bugs does not
> make sense to me, and only reflect a dislike for unreproducible bug.

If a bug isn't reproducible and can't be tracked then there is no hope of fixing it. In such cases, whether the bug report remains open or not doesn't really matter much.

> How do you explain other OS had no issue in the same configuration?

I can't explain it because I haven't been able to obtain enough information. Mostly this is because the reporters stop responding, but occasionally it's because special debugging hardware is needed and the reporter doesn't have it.

One possible explanation might be that the drivers for the other OS were written with special knowledge of some bugs in the hardware. Manufacturers often don't share such knowledge with open-source programmers. But I have no way to know if this is the case here.

> Closing this bug doesn't contribute in nailing it down. That's what happened
> for the last two years: it gets reported and then closed, it reappers
> somewhere
> else but the OP quickly disappears because this bug is a showstopper (you
> can't
> work with it).

You are making a very common mistake: confusing the bug with the bug report. I keep telling you that what we see reported here, in this one report, is really many different bugs. Several of them have already been tracked down and solved. You don't seem to understand this.

> Only recently did I
> try again, got this bug again, but did not want to get discouraged because of
> it. So I'm sorry for making so much noise, I'm tired of this bug as much as
> you
> are, but I don't want to forget about it.

If you would like to contribute, please open a new bug report. This is because your problem is almost certainly caused by a different bug from the one that originally led to this report.

> Is the fix you talked about in 2.6.30?

Only partially. The most recent code is available in 2.26.31-rc5 together with this patch: <http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/gregkh-2.6/gregkh-all-2.6.31-rc5.patch>.