Comment 704 for bug 532633

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Martin Wildam (mwildam) wrote :

> Top-Arguments for left are:
> - Gnome 3 (Commando-Bar and Activity are on the left)

But there is another whole bunch of things on the right (e.g. all applications from Autostart, which is for me: Skype, KeyPassX, Dropbox, Shutter and YuuGuu for example. I need all those more often than the applications menu. Things I often use are anyway dragged onto the top panel as quick launch. Further all dialog buttons like ok, cancel etc are on the bottom right, many website's have clickable links (archive, tag clouds etc) on the right etc etc. - The Gnome applications menu is just one of plenty things and only because that is on the left, you want to align everything else that way? - And imagine, that most people start the applications once and then keep them open - many either never shut their machine down just setting it to suspend or hibernate mode - so they basically never need the menu button once all applications are running (ok, I might be exaggerating now a little bit ;-) ).

> - new feature arrives in the perfect 10 (10.10)

Sorry, I didn't get that.

> - shorter mouseways after a short training

This is true IMHO just for a few use cases (that include making intensive use of the applications menu).
BTW: Closing from the left was always possible (just one more click)

> - it looks better

Neither, because if you have many windows open - especially when compiz enabled with some frames are shining throw you have less feeling for window borders - the buttons help here. And it seems more balanced with some button left and buttons right.

> Top-Arguments for right are:
> - consistence with the close-buttons on tabs etc.

Only because of consistence I personally wouldn't rate that even so high, if there are good arguments for moving them to the left.

- it's like Windows - peoples comes normally from Windows or use it in their Job.

This is a very good argument IMHO (not only because helps fixing bug #1) - even in companies where Linux already used on the desktop there are usually some Windows applications needed and they are run through terminal servers etc - so basically every company has a longer transition phase where people need to use both OSes. For support reasons I also have to use windows and already find it annoying that drag and drop with options on Windows is with the right mouse button and on Linux with the middle mouse button - BTW a similar usability issue as the thing with the buttons.

OK, what about displaying the buttons on both sides - left AND right?
Sample: Firefox is one of the most used applications and I configured compiz that whatever edge of the screen I am clicking, a Firefox opens. So I basically go to that edge that is nearest from where I am currently positioned with the mouse. If you really want to reduce mouse miles driven, then you need the buttons on both sides! - And BTW: This is really innovative, because nobody else has it.

Or else other innovative solution: Don't display any button, but as soon as you move the mouse over the title bar display the buttons right next to the mouse. - For this site here for instance the "Post Comment" button is neither on the left nor on the right but as soon as I clicked it the next operation will be to close the window. Actually from the current window size the right top is closer than the left top (so this is argument for keeping buttons on the right) - but the very next would be somewhere a third from the right (moving the mouse straight up). And such a solution would look very cool - no buttons at all but very web 2.0 (or 2.5 or whatever ;-) ) like the buttons would appear as needed when you hover over the title bar.