Comment 702 for bug 532633

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cornbread (corn13read) wrote : Re: [Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment

+1 to having it as an optional theme!

Definitely the wrong thing to "experiment with" without innovation at hand already. ESPECIALLY ON AN LTS

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On Apr 13, 2010 12:38 AM, Martin Wildam &lt;<email address hidden>&gt; wrote:

Well, if the community is so blindly ignored, then I should maybe switch

distribution...

I have been a convinced Ubuntu-User but if things develop that way...

I think the community is bringing the most new users. It is not the

Windows users that find Ubuntu and then really use it. Everywhere I

look, there are only a very few leader types that find things themselves

- most use what others already successfully use. And Linux is a lot

spread by word of mouth. New users want other users near to them who

they can ask for help if needed. The buttons-to-the-left-change is

definitely making the transition for a Windows user more difficult.

I will not go to teach new users about gconf - they should be able to

focus on their work. I myself used that the last time about 5 years ago.

I remember it so annoying on Windows that after a fresh installation

quite every default setting in the Explorer need to be changed to make

it useful. Do we want Ubuntu get the same annoyance-factor?

If you include new themes with the distribution that have the buttons on

the left - well do it. But don't set such a theme as default.

@Mark: I didn't notice at any place so far a real reason for the buttons

on the left. "Encouraging innovation" is good, but there should be

reason. For such experimental major changes the very best would be to

first have just an optional additional theme that makes use of this. And

there are really more important changes in UI design needed, just one

that comes to my mind immediately: A confirmation dialog when the user

presses the delete key in Nautilus. I am not sure myself sometimes, if I

accidently hit delete when scrolling to the end and then have to examine

recycle bin if I have deleted something accidently or not. (I know this

is off-topic here, but just one of plenty other examples being more

important for a good user experience than moving buttons to the left

without any reason). And keep in mind that productivity, reliability and

functionality is more important than design. For most computer users the

computer is not their main focus - they use it but want to focus on

their main business or hobby. "New innovative ideas" from my

understanding are only such if they solve a problem or bring new

possibilities. Can't see that for this button-issue - the opposite is

more true.

@Bernhard: Thanks for filing this - I think it is the best solution only

having a new optional theme using this style.

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[Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment

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