Comment 168 for bug 185311

The last several comments is doing nothing at all to help the case of those wishing to revert libx11. Still no data about *specific* apps with *specific* problems (backtraces or at least stderr msgs) are NOT being posted to this bug report. If problems are so pervasive, then I would expect it to be a simple matter to reproduce and post some factual details (screenshots, error logs, *something*). Simply ranting more loudly and being insulting doesn't help - just makes me question all the more if there actually are any facts behind the assertions. I'll give it a few more weeks but without solid evidence will close this as wontfix.

Ripping out xcb-enabled libx11 from hardy would be a HUGE amount of work that will impact a number of people, and not something I'm willing to entertain without unquestionably clear, detailed benefits that I can show to Canonical management and those people who will be affected by this and that will need to sign off on it. Many won't care so much about proprietary software to begin with, so convincing them to make changes simply to improve proprietary software is going to be hard to justify to begin with. Non-CoC comments like "remove the XCB infection!", "Does no one at Canonical CARE?" etc. just serve to harden opinions against making any further changes, and invest any further time beyond the good deal we've put in already.