Menu entry title in Olive desktop file should be "Bazaar Version Control"

Bug #245633 reported by Vincent Geddes
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Bazaar GTK+ Frontends
Fix Released
Medium
Jasper Groenewegen
bzr-gtk (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Wishlist
Andrea Colangelo

Bug Description

Right now it's called "Olive", which tells users nothing...

Rationale:

* User's don't care about the name of the frontend, they just want to
  manage versioned files.

* Better and more consistent branding for Bazaar. Again, users don't
  care about the name of the frontend, so just call it "Bazaar".

* The GNOME HIG also recommends this change. Notice that the menu entry
  for Totem is "Movie Player", and for gedit its "Text Editor".

This all depends on whether the the Bazaar owners would allow a third-party
plugin to use bazaar branding. Frankly, bzr-gtk is an important package,
so it would be wise to allow such branding.

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Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) wrote : Re: [Bug 245633] [NEW] Menu entry title in Olive desktop file should be "Bazaar Version Control"

Hi Vincent,

Am Freitag, den 04.07.2008, 18:19 +0000 schrieb Vincent Geddes:
> Right now it's called "Olive", which tells users nothing...
>
> Rationale:
>
> * User's don't care about the name of the frontend, they just want to
> manage versioned files.

> * Better and more consistent branding for Bazaar. Again, users don't
> care about the name of the frontend, so just call it "Bazaar".
>
> * The GNOME HIG also recommends this change. Notice that the menu entry
> for Totem is "Movie Player", and for gedit its "Text Editor".
Renaming it to something else than Olive seems like a good idea to me.

However, I don't think the description "Bazaar" does it justice.
Olive-GTK is not the same thing as Bazaar (gedit is a Text Editor, Totem
is a Movie Player but Olive is not "a Bazaar"). What about something
like "Bazaar Branch Manager" ?

Please also note that bzr-gtk is not just Olive-Gtk - it also includes
Nautilus integration for Bazaar among other things.

> This all depends on whether the the Bazaar owners would allow a third-party
> plugin to use bazaar branding. Frankly, bzr-gtk is an important package,
> so it would be wise to allow such branding.

  status triaged
  importance medium

Cheers,

Jelmer

P.S. More GNOME HIG bug reports are most welcome :-)

--
Jelmer Vernooij <email address hidden> - http://samba.org/~jelmer/
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Changed in bzr-gtk:
importance: Undecided → Medium
status: New → Triaged
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Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks) wrote :

I agree for "Bazaar Branch Manager" and can begin a patch on it. Vincent, are you ok with this name ?

Changed in bzr-gtk:
assignee: nobody → didrocks
Changed in bzr-gtk:
status: Triaged → In Progress
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Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks) wrote :

In Intrepid version, the name is "Version Control GUI", which seems to be correct, don't you think?

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Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks) wrote :

Sorry, it was the generic name. Olive is still the name of the menu entry :)

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Vincent Geddes (vgeddes) wrote : Re: [Bug 245633] Re: Menu entry title in Olive desktop file should be "Bazaar Version Control"

I like it. "Bazaar Branch Manager" sounds good.

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Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) wrote :

"Bazaar Branch Manager" is too generic imo. Olive is not the only Bazaar branch manager that's out there. what about something like "Olive Bazaar Branch Manager" ?

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Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks) wrote :

I took into account Jelmer's proposal.
Add also some french translation to it.
Here is the debdiff file.

Changed in bzr-gtk:
assignee: didrocks → nobody
status: In Progress → Confirmed
Changed in bzr-gtk:
assignee: nobody → warp10
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: New → In Progress
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Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) wrote :

That doesn't appear to be my proposal, I objected to the name "Bazaar Branch Manager" as being too generic.

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Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) wrote :

Sorry, ignore that. I was looking at the wrong entry.

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Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) wrote :

Sorry, I was looking at the wrong entry. Please ignore my last comment.

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Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) wrote :

Any chance you can submit a patch to the upstream branch of bzr-gtk rather than a Ubuntu-specific change?

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Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks) wrote :

@Jelmer: yes, I will contact the upstream maintainer to see the possible inclusion of the patch. But still, I will submit my first patch \o/

Here is a new version taking into account Andrea remarks (removal of deprecated keys in .dekstop file)

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Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks) wrote :

Here is the version with my correct mail address (I really have to set up my working computer environment as my home one).
Sorry for the flood...

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James Westby (james-w) wrote :

On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 13:22 +0000, DidRocks wrote:
> @Jelmer: yes, I will contact the upstream maintainer to see the possible
> inclusion of the patch. But still, I will submit my first patch \o/

Hi,

Jelmer is the upstream maintainer :-)

Congratulations on the first patch though.

Thanks,

James

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Andrea Colangelo (warp10) wrote :

Thank you Didier, uploading now. Enjoy your first upload in universe! :-)

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package bzr-gtk - 0.94.0-1ubuntu1

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bzr-gtk (0.94.0-1ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low

  * add 04-change-menu-entry.dpatch to fix name, add french translation and
    remove some deprecated keys in olive-gtk.desktop (LP: #245633)

 -- Didier Roche <email address hidden> Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:14:06 +0200

Changed in bzr-gtk:
status: In Progress → Fix Released
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Jasper Groenewegen (colbrac) wrote :

Change to desktop file committed to trunk in rev 598 (post 0.95.0)

Changed in bzr-gtk:
status: Confirmed → Fix Committed
Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer)
Changed in bzr-gtk:
assignee: nobody → colbrac
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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