[wish] provide a qt backend for firefox in kubuntu

If you want us to look at this you need to explain what the actual problem is. Can you provide screenshots? What do you mean by ugly?

Is it a big difference between firefox 2 and firefox 3? What is worse about kde4?

The bug as it stands is more of a compliant than a bug - and we can't do anything with it.

If you refer to the ugly appearance of all gnome applications in kde4, there is a workaround that I found in http://pollycoke.net/2008/02/09/sullaspetto-delle-applicazioni-gnome-in-kde-4-seconda-parte/,

You have to create a file ~/.kde4/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 (if not present) and put inside something like this

include "/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
style "user-font"
{ font_name="Liberation Sans 9 " }
widget_class "*" style "user-font"
gtk-theme-name="Clearlooks"
gtk-font-name="Liberation Sans 9 "

Via GUI, you can use gtk-kde4 to have the same results http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4?content=74689&PHPSESSID=a633cbe194c2107706abf7c07712b951
(eventually fixing fonts, as reported in blog)

hope this can help you

Alexander,
  Should we add this to a KDE4/KDE package since its GTK on a non GTK system? KDE has never really handled GTK all that great since it doesnt use it.

Since Mozilla Corp has decided to create specific platforms backend's themes and use the platform api directly for the gui, the result is that firefox3 linux theme render is very ugly on kde, because firefox use the one they have made for gnome... And the render is "catastrophic"...

Firefox 2 don't have the same problem because of the unified theme.

Perhaps it is a compliant more than a real bug but i think that's this problem is very annoying for all kde users who like using firefox.
For me it is a feature request : add kde support to firefox3.
I have thinked that feature request are welcome on this site ?!

Best regards, and sorry for my poor english

Note that the request is not to have better support of gtk in kde4 (which is an other problem and could help as workaround) but to have a specific firefox-qt package who use qt for backend in firefox3 like it is already done with aqua on mac os gtk on gnome and windows api on windows...

Perhaps this request may have a better place in upstream bugzilla ?!

the package would be named firefox-kde-* as we have for gnome should fix this issue. I was hoping to have it in Hardy but that didnt happen. I will talk it over with kde folks and mozilla folks and see what we come up with for Hardy+1

+1
I have the same "problem". It's very unfriendly for kubuntu users who uses Firefox...
This problem should be fixed!

+5

I agree. This is very annoying for Firefox users on KDE. I just spent an hour searching for a Firefox b5 theme that would make Firefox less ugly. Note I'm not using KDE4 (I'm 3.5.9 -- I just upgraded to hardy).

I've attached a screenshot that shows why it's so ugly. The bottom of the tab bar is a little screwy and the spacing isn't correct. There are also quirks and artifacts in Firefox Preferences. It just makes Firefox feel sort of unpolished and gross.

I switched to Phoenity Modern which made it better. I can provide a screenshot for that as well if requested. The tab bar looks much better that way.

here are some good news :
http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/

Perhaps we can have this for intrepid

On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 01:32:53AM -0000, Brett A. Taylor wrote:
>
> ** Attachment added: "ugly screenshot of default Firefox theme"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14211108/fugly-theme.png
>

Well, isn't that the kde gtk theme?

 affects ubuntu/firefox
 status invalid

 affects ubuntu/firefox-3.0
 status incomplete

 - Alexander

hi !

Don't understand why you change the status of this package since he does *not* speak of the kde-gtk theme (he is only a bit less ugly workaround).

The wish of the topic is to provide a qt backend for firefox not to make any hack on the kde-gtk theme (which are welcome too but it is not the topic)

cheers !

is this bug related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/223055 ?

I tried Giorgio's fix in kde3 (in ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0):
include "/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
style "user-font"
{ font_name="DejaVu Sans 8 " }
widget_class "*" style "user-font"
gtk-theme-name="Clearlooks"
gtk-font-name="DejaVu Sans 8 "

But it didn't fix the tabs issue (toolbars look nice though!)

When using tab mix plus, it's possible to have two rows of tabs. then you really see what the problem looks like (see attachment)

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:48:05AM -0000, naught101 wrote:
> I tried Giorgio's fix in kde3 (in ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0):
> include "/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
> style "user-font"
> { font_name="DejaVu Sans 8 " }
> widget_class "*" style "user-font"
> gtk-theme-name="Clearlooks"
> gtk-font-name="DejaVu Sans 8 "
>
> But it didn't fix the tabs issue (toolbars look nice though!)
>
> When using tab mix plus, it's possible to have two rows of tabs. then
> you really see what the problem looks like (see attachment)
>
> ** Attachment added: "screen shot of ff3 with tab mix plus"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14411067/ff3%20tab%20in%20tab%20mix%20plus.png

Yes, ultimately this will turn out to be a theme issue. Please
reassign to the kde theme package involved here.

 affects ubuntu/firefox-3.0
 status incomplete

 - Alexander

For now, you can use the beta version of Mostly Crystal for FF 3.

or this theme that re-creates ff2 styling: http://borrd.blogspot.com/search?q=firefox

This bug also apparent in the tabs of epiphany when running under kde3.

I rename the summary and the description of the bug for clarity.
Please go on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/222122 witch is not really a duplicate to speak on (the ugly too so it's cool if we can improve it) workarounds based on themes to apply on gtk or firefox but not qt native.

here are the upstream talk about the subject :
http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/

as per https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/193538/comments/14 i am marking against a qt theme issue

not a firefox bug.

Gtk-qt-engine-kde4 is a theme engine, not a kde theme package. gtk-qt-engine Simply themes GTK applications with the theme specified in its System Settings module. This bug should be marked as affecting the default KDE3 style if you think that it makes FF look ugly.

In regards to KDE4:
-By default Kubuntu-KDE4 does not have gtk-qt-engine-kde4 installed. This is bug 229804 .
-Any bugs encountered with gtk-qt-engine-kde4 should be filed separately from this bug if they aren't already filed.

There are news: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/

Alexander,

surely not a firefox bug, but yes it is a firefox only directly related wish (and not any workaround theme issue)...
By provide the qt backend for kde, it will more integrated in this desktop environment (file dialog, etc...)

Cheers !

Alexander,

surely not a firefox bug, but yes it is a firefox only directly related wish (and not any workaround theme issue)...
By providing the qt backend for kde, it will more integrated in this desktop environment (file dialog, etc...)

Cheers !