Comment 23 for bug 15495

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Lightbreeze (nedhoy-gmail) wrote : Re: [Bug 15495] Re: "Archive Manager" doesn't mean anything if you don't know what an "archive" is

 "Create Compressed File" isn't far different from "Compress...", although
'create' might make it clearer to the user that the file selected itself
won't be compressed.

We might use 'Compress (.zip)...' where .zip becomes whichever was the last
format used in the dialog. So it could read "Compress (.tar.gz)...".

Does it matter that 'compress' isn't entirely accurate, just because an
archive doesn't have to be compressed? As Stuart points out, #3 is the least
common need for an average user.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Mat Tomaszewski <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Stuart, great example. The issue is then - if "archive" is not a good
> name for "files that contain other files, but it can also be one file,
> just compressed to a smaller size", what name should we use?
>
> --
> "Archive Manager" doesn't mean anything if you don't know what an "archive"
> is
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/15495
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>
> Status in The FileRoller Archive Manager: New
> Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Triaged
> Status in “file-roller” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
>
> Bug description:
> A new user thinks "I need to create a zip file", and doesn't know how to do
> it.
> If you don't know that a zip file is an "archive", which many new users do
> not,
> then it's very difficult to tell how to create one. "Create archive" on the
> Nautilus context menu, "Archive Manager" in the Applications menu, etc, are
> all
> meaningless. (This happened to me today when someone I know rang me for
> technical support to ask how to create a zip file, and when I explained
> how, he
> said "what's an archive?")
>
> Suggested fixes (to be taken with a very large pinch of salt and replaced
> with
> better suggestions):
> Change "Create archive" to "Create compressed file" on the context menu
> Change "Archive Manager" to "Compressed Files" on the Applications menu
> (with
> tooltip "Create and edit compressed files")
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300655:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300655
>
> Then won't you get questions like: "What's a compressed file"? Perhaps
> some other wording may help such as: "Create a safe copy of a file".
>
> Proposed solution:
> * In context menu rename "Create Archive" to "Compress..."
> * The subsequent dialog box should be re-titled to read: "Create compressed
> file"
> * The input box on the dialog box should be re-labelled from 'Archive' to
> 'Filename'
> * Change "Archive Manager" to "Compressed Files" on the Applications menu
> (with tooltip "Create and edit compressed files")
>
> More data and discussion can be found here:
> * http://www.designintheopen.org/profiles/blogs/zip-archive-package-or and
> * http://www.ivankamajic.com/?p=143#comment-23493
>
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