Comment 143 for bug 760131

+Matthew Hessel

"if you look around there are bug reports for this exact bug on Fedora,
Debian, I think I even saw this in Gentoo and Arch as well. Most of the
effort I see Ubuntu developers working on are usability and GUI
improvements, and don't discount the work they do to enhance the stock
debian packages to make Ubuntu as stable as possible."

That's what I said, it's a kernel bug, so it should be in all linux distributions. Also that's the reason I suggested Ubuntu developers should work together with all other distributions' developers, to force a faster and better solution.
I think it's one of the times when it does not matter what color we dress up, but it matters for the same kernel we all use to work better :)

I'm using a Toshiba laptop and installed Ubuntu 10.10 in March (this year), then upgraded to 11.4, then reinstalled 11.4 as at least for me it worked better as a fresh install (maybe newbie issues) :D
The thing is that the first installation made me enjoy a lot more time without plugging the machine, and during later updates I could only use it less than one hour (1h). I guess you can image it's frustrating.
The pcie_aspm=force gave me like a plus of about 30 minutes, so it's definitely a good idea.

This problem might not be the most important in the world, but as much as I can think, it's a huge problem for all mobile devices and a regular user does not know how or should not have to insert some manual parameters to grub. Imagine my grandmother who has first seen a keyboard 2 years ago doing that; but of course she can plug or unplug the laptop to/from electricity line as that is like an old radio, you don't need to know anything complicated for that.

In the end I just want to make sure people know I appreciate what Ubuntu team is doing. The're doing a great work, I could see things being fixed in the last months (for instance until later Natty with updates, the headphones were not working, but they fixed it; don't know if it's only on a virtual machine, but there is another bug fixed in Oneiric, alpha: disabling network hangs system in Natty, but not in Oneric). I do what I can to help, for instance I've reported some bugs and I can definitely do more testing as I know what to expect from a machine and I use the laptop 15+ hours a day.