New [TEMPORARY] default Intrepid wallpaper is green and unattractive

Bug #276594 reported by William Grant
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ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
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Ubuntu Artwork Team
Nominated for Intrepid by plun

Bug Description

Binary package hint: ubuntu-wallpapers

The new Intrepid wallpaper appears to have a swirl of blue and a swirl of purple circles, neither of which fit the Ubuntu color scheme, and make it look generally bad.

UPDATE: This is currently in progress (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/276594/comments/47) and a new more popular wallpaper will be released before the final version of Intrepid.

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bedfojo (bedfojo) wrote :

Confirmed. It's biblically ugly.

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plun (plun) wrote :

Reference to "media" and how it looks.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njc1NA

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Hernando Torque (htorque) wrote :

Agreed. The actual work looks more like a loveless plan B. While I like the idea with the swirl the colors totally destroy it.

27 days should be enough to pep up the wallpaper and gdm background.

plun (plun)
Changed in ubuntu-wallpapers:
status: New → Confirmed
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exploder (dcosner) wrote :

Confirmed. The default wallpaper is terrible and it does not conform to the Ubuntu look at all. A new ATTRACTIVE theme was promised for this release and I agree that there is still plenty of time to fix this.

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exploder (dcosner) wrote :

Here is a link to the discussions about the new wallpaper. There are very few positive comments.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=934365

Changed in ubuntu-wallpapers:
assignee: nobody → ubuntu-art
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DFreeze (dfreeze) wrote :

I hate to 'me too' in a bugreport, but I just can't keep quiet any longer. How can this wallpaper be the best the wiki or other sources have to offer? PLEASE don't ship with this front - Ubuntu will be mocked for it to no end! Focus would be on artwork for this cycle, so everyone is keeping a close eye on us in that regard. At least show that we are working on it. This wallpaper is the worst I've seen in all Ubuntu's existance.

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vista killer (vistakiller) wrote :

the worst wallpaper ever....

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Bossieman (leifsandvik) wrote :

I can confirm this too. This should be fixed asap, the release is close and II looks like a bad LSD-trip in wrong colors.

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Zlatan (laurynas-ragaisis) wrote :

I am really sorry to say that, but it is terrible.

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hauke (hauke-heesch) wrote :

I think the wallpaper in the alfa version is just a joke.

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gsmx (gsmx) wrote :

Here is my forum post, hope it will help the discussion here, too.

"
Didn't Mark Shuttleworth spoke about being more beautiful than Apple at OSCON 2008? Don't we all want to fix bug #1?

The first impression of Ubuntu is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of attracting new users. Booting has to be more attractive than just plainly copying Windows. The transition from Usplash to GDM has to be a nice fading, the transition from GDM to Gnome has to be a nice fading. Not *BOOM* Black to Brown and *BOOM*Brown to Orange *BOOM* to background...

And most of all: the WALLPAPER has to be attractive! A default Gnome screen of 1280x1024 has to bars of both 24px, that leaves 1249280 pixels of wallpaper, if I did my math correct, that's 96.2% of the screen! When the wallpaper is as boring as this one, users will just say: "That looks really unprofesional, how can I trust this OS?"
"

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Joshua Blount (jblount) wrote :

While I appreciate that everyone wants to voice their opinion, it seems we've come to the consensus that the wallpaper is not quite up to par with how we feel about Ubuntu.

Perhaps at this point it would be more valuable to spend our time hacking around in GIMP or Inkscape to produce some better options, rather than repeatedly agreeing that this wallpaper isn't quite up to par.

Please don't take this as anything other than a constructive suggestion, and of course feel free to disagree; however I won't be able to respond because I'll be spending my freetime working on Ubuntu wallpapers. :)

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote : RE: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

Ill mess and make a new one toniight, any suggestions on how it should look?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Blount <email address hidden>
Sent: October 3, 2008 9:01 AM
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

While I appreciate that everyone wants to voice their opinion, it seems
we've come to the consensus that the wallpaper is not quite up to par
with how we feel about Ubuntu.

Perhaps at this point it would be more valuable to spend our time
hacking around in GIMP or Inkscape to produce some better options,
rather than repeatedly agreeing that this wallpaper isn't quite up to
par.

Please don't take this as anything other than a constructive suggestion,
and of course feel free to disagree; however I won't be able to respond
because I'll be spending my freetime working on Ubuntu wallpapers. :)

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Matthias Klumpp (ximion) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green
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gsmx (gsmx) wrote :

Joshua Blount wrote: "Perhaps at this point it would be more valuable to spend our time hacking around in GIMP or Inkscape to produce some better options, rather than repeatedly agreeing that this wallpaper isn't quite up to par."

The point is that the community made enough very good wallpapers (see Artwork wiki) , but somehow somebody chose to put this "thing" in the beta..

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote :

Ok, I will create a new wallpaper, any suggestions on how it should look?

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Durand D'souza (durand1) wrote :

Tux.Ice, the point is that there are already loads of really amazing wallpapers. No point in making another..

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote :

Well, I might as well, since im half done, but if nobody likes it, Kenneth should definatly change this.

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote :
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C.Kontros (coryisatm) wrote :

PLEASE!! I do not need my email filled with useless posts about this. Launchpad is *not* for discussion like this. Please take it to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art. That's where this should have gone from the start.

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exploder (dcosner) wrote :

I subscribed to the mailing list as suggested. With all due respect, this bug report was written because a new theme has been promised twice now. The current default theme is hideous and people are trying their best to speak up about it. There is an outcry for change and the community wants to be heard. I have read one review on the beta and the new artwork was mentioned in a very negative manor. There is still time to change this situation and community members have submitted some quality artwork that could be used.

There was community outcry about the EULA that Mozilla wanted to include and there was change. The default artwork is no different and it is time for change.

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rick.duff (rick-blackowlstudio) wrote : Re: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

The "point" is the decision making in including one out of the better ones
and efforts we've put forth and taken the time to create.

Perhaps we could get consensus approval from the people on this list, which
would at least respect the artist's time, effort and donation of copyright, to Canonical
by at least asking our opinion, moving forward.

There are better options as previously stated on this list.

Rick

"Tux.Ice" <email address hidden> wrote: Well, I might as well, since im half done, but if nobody likes it,
Kenneth should definatly change this.

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exploder (dcosner) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

I think that the gdm theme looks better than the previous one. Possibly if the wallpaper had similar colored circles it might look pretty good. What spoils the wallpaper is the green and magenta circles. The green is especially distracting. The shade of brown used in the wallpaper seems to look alright with the default theme and the included dark theme.Possibly some fine tuning of the colors of the circles would give the default wallpaper a pleasant effect.

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote : Re: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

Actually, what i meant was if nobody likes MINE, I respect the fact that he
put time and effort into that, heres mine:

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Cris G (krig-tiscali) wrote :

Hi, maybe could better this style, is more simple; you can use it as free if
you want ;) cheers, cris

2008/10/4 Tux.Ice <email address hidden>

> Actually, what i meant was if nobody likes MINE, I respect the fact that he
> put time and effort into that, heres mine:
>
>
> ** Attachment added: "wallpaper2.png"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18214458/wallpaper2.png
>
> ** Attachment added: "wallpaper.png"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18214459/wallpaper.png
>
> --
> New default Intrepid wallpaper is green
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276594
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
> Artwork Team, which is a bug assignee.
>

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote :

Cris, I like it!

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Cris G <email address hidden> wrote:

> Hi, maybe could better this style, is more simple; you can use it as free
> if
> you want ;) cheers, cris
>
> 2008/10/4 Tux.Ice <email address hidden>
>
> > Actually, what i meant was if nobody likes MINE, I respect the fact that
> he
> > put time and effort into that, heres mine:
> >
> >
> > ** Attachment added: "wallpaper2.png"
> > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18214458/wallpaper2.png
> >
> > ** Attachment added: "wallpaper.png"
> > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18214459/wallpaper.png
> >
> > --
> > New default Intrepid wallpaper is green
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276594
> > You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
> > Artwork Team, which is a bug assignee.
> >
>
>
> ** Attachment added: "ibex-wallpaper.svg"
> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18215591/ibex-wallpaper.svg
>
> --
> New default Intrepid wallpaper is green
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276594
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
> Artwork Team, which is a bug assignee.
>

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ces (goodmorning-no) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

It *was* brought up in ubuntu-art. This discussion has already made the rounds there, see this post:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-October/008079.html

The final reply was:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-October/008089.html

To quote from that message: "We aren't the official art team, that is left to Canonical and their team of professional artists. We work on community themes and wallpapers, and if Mark likes one of our themes, he will use it." In other words, it's still a community mailing list, with no real link to the actual Art Team.

Speaking of community themes and wallpapers, there are many excellent examples in the Artwork wiki. NewHuman and Dust are current theme favorites, but I would understand if Ubuntu wouldn't want to use dark menus for the default theme. Even so, this bug isn't even about the theme (although a lot of people were let down that there was no new theme included), but the wallpaper, and numerous other wallpapers have been pointed out in this thread alone.

This discussion has made the rounds at the Ubuntu Forums several times as well. Someone at the forums said it was unproductive to complain there, since the devs don't usually read the forums; that's why I think this bug exists. If there's a *more* appropriate venue for these concerns, do tell.

(Oh yeah, and just so there's no confusion: I think the current Ibex wallpaper is , to put it bluntly, ugly. My first reaction to seeing it was "eurgh". I'm pretty sure I've never had that sort of reaction to previous Ubuntu wallpapers. Even a "meh" sort of reaction would be an improvement.)

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PC-load_letter (m-cohomology) wrote :

The current wallpaper is tasteless, ugly, and gives the wrong impression to someone who is trying Ubuntu for the first time. The current choice of the wallpaper conveys a message of "unprofessional" quality that will cause many first timers to steer clear of even trying Ubuntu.
There are countless better choices out there, even just within the Ibex community art, and the Gnome-art pages.

Releasing Ibex with this choice of wallpaper is an irresponsible decision that needs to be reviewed in my opinion.

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diffuze (tina-drebel) wrote :

Any plain one-color wallpaper would be better than this one.

I almost started to look at my monitorsettings, the circles look like some sort of artifacts.

PC-load_letter: +1 !!

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Fabio Marzocca (thesaltydog) wrote :

I know... it's just a joke. It will not be the final wallpaper... it cannot be....

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prafjessor (danielsmakarbra) wrote : Re: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

God, i hope so!

2008/10/5 Fabio Marzocca <email address hidden>

> I know... it's just a joke. It will not be the final wallpaper... it
> cannot be....
>
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> New default Intrepid wallpaper is green
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276594
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in "ubuntu-wallpapers" source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: ubuntu-wallpapers
>
> The new Intrepid wallpaper appears to have a swirl of blue and a swirl of
> purple circles, neither of which fit the Ubuntu color scheme, and make it
> look generally bad.
>

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Martin Beltov (mbeltov) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

This has the potential to scare people away from Ubuntu

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Gina (ginalinux) wrote :

I certainly hope this IS a joke and that we get something decent for the final release. This is the worst I think I've ever seen though the "elephant hide" came close! To be more constructive... I really like the Heron wallpaper - I was very impressed with that - striking, different, colourful, yet with the Ubuntu Heron theme firmly visible. I have been hoping to see something similar using an Ibex for the 8.10 release. Currently I'm using one of the silhouettes of an Ibex in the sunset as the best I've found so far for my liking.

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote :

OK, I added a few more, I think they look pretty good https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/BrownOrange_Wallpaper

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gsmx (gsmx) wrote :

I like the first one most, although some circles are a bit pixelated (is that a word ?)

Nevertheless, the CURRENT wallpaper must be thrown in the trash...

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote : Re: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

yes i know they are pixelated, i will fix possibly later on today

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM, MarniX <email address hidden> wrote:

> I like the first one most, although some circles are a bit pixelated (is
> that a word ?)
>
> Nevertheless, the CURRENT wallpaper must be thrown in the trash...
>
> --
> New default Intrepid wallpaper is green
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276594
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
> Artwork Team, which is a bug assignee.
>

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

NOTE: This bug report has been noticed by canonical, please leave all comments for the BrownOrange wallpapers at the bottom of the wiki page, thnx!

Changed in ubuntu-wallpapers:
status: Confirmed → In Progress
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gsmx (gsmx) wrote :

Status changed to "in progress"

I hope this means they admit the wallpaper has to be changed??

/me is very hopeful!

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote : RE: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

Hopefully

-----Original Message-----
From: MarniX <email address hidden>
Sent: October 5, 2008 11:24 AM
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

Status changed to "in progress"

I hope this means they admit the wallpaper has to be changed??

/me is very hopeful!

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David Prieto (frandavid100-gmail) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

I have to agree that the wallpaper is sad and depressing. Simply altering the saturation, however (+75), improves the situation dramatically, at least to my taste.

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ablanco (andresbm84) wrote :
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Troy James Sobotka (troy-sobotka) wrote :

Adding colour to an Ubuntu wallpaper is _not_ the problem. Anyone who considers adding colour to Ubuntu a bug should be sentenced to at least four years of design study in the area of colour theory.

Please be mature enough to realize that publishing a bug such as this will effectively set us back to the monochromatic Ubuntu years. By presenting this as a bug and dimwittingly agreeing to it, you are _not_ moving Ubuntu's art and design ahead. There are extremely high profile people at Ubuntu who firmly believe that adding colour to Ubuntu "confuses the palette." The poor execution present in this wallpaper should _not_ be used as an "I told you so."

This wallpaper has far more significant problems than the colours. Ubuntu needs _more_ colour in its presentation, not less. It _does_ require well planned and executed colour however, which this wallpaper may be accused of suffering from, among other ailments.

If you believe this to be a poor wallpaper choice, don't hide it under the guise of a poorly anchored observation.

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gsmx (gsmx) wrote :

Troy: I don't think you got the point here, although the title says something about green, if you follow above discussion/comments, you read that almost NObody likes this wallpaper, not only the colours, but just the overall idea of this wallpaper.

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Adam Del Vecchio (tux.ice) wrote : RE: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

+1

-----Original Message-----
From: MarniX <email address hidden>
Sent: October 6, 2008 10:54 AM
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 276594] Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

Troy: I don't think you got the point here, although the title says
something about green, if you follow above discussion/comments, you read
that almost NObody likes this wallpaper, not only the colours, but just
the overall idea of this wallpaper.

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exploder (dcosner) wrote : Re: New default Intrepid wallpaper is green

The entire point of the bug report is that an overwhelming number of people think the wallpaper is horrible. If you looked up the word hideous in the dictionary it would say "see Ubuntu Intrepid". There has been a new theme promised twice and this is not even an attempt to deliver this. This is how Microsoft handles things, they completely ignore what the end user's want. Is this really how we want Intrepid to be viewed?

I have now read two reviews that have had very negative comments regarding the theme and wallpaper. There are one man distributions with better artwork that this! Ubuntu is probably the only distribution in history that has a bug report filed against it's artwork. Doesn't that say something? Does any other distribution have hundreds of reply s on it's forums about how bad the the wallpaper is?

There needs to be change. Two releases now people have been anxiously waiting for change in the theme and wallpaper. I thought Ubuntu is "Linux For Human Beings". Human beings are asking for decent artwork. What possible reason could there be for not having better artwork? Ubuntu can build a distribution that is #1 on Distrowatch.com but can not include better artwork than the current default?

Come on, this is bug #1.

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Michael Rooney (mrooney) wrote :

Hi everyone! This bug is indeed in progress and will be addressed quite soon. The current wallpaper is NOT the final one. Here is the relevant discussion from a recent #ubuntu-devel IRC log (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/06/%23ubuntu-devel.txt):

[13:00] <Hobbsee> kwwii: is that dreary wallpaper *really* the final one?
[13:00] <kwwii> Hobbsee: no
[13:01] <Hobbsee> kwwii: oh thank goodness. What's the new one like?
[13:01] <Hobbsee> kwwii: and when will it land?
[13:01] <kwwii> Hobbsee: it is one that everybody loves :p
[13:01] <kwwii> Hobbsee: asap

Sounds like it might be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper or a derivation thereof. Thanks everyone for expression your desires and opinions; it definitely has an impact with Ubuntu.

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Brian (neon-lights) wrote :

Hallelujah. No really. o_o I was SERIOUSLY freaked that Intrepid would ship with that disgusting thing.
Reading that log, he said he's looking at using Earthen Ibex, which I find amazing. <3 I'm using it right now.

Michael Rooney (mrooney)
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Brett Alton (brett-alton-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

A little too late to point out now, but I made a brainstorm idea on this before I knew of this bug: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/14082/

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exploder (dcosner) wrote :

WOW! The brainstorm idea must have another hundred or so posts about how bad the wallpaper is! I wonder if there is a world record for bad artwork? Intrepid could have a world record on it's hands! Between all of the posts about the default wallpaper there are thousands that think it is terrible.

Is there any news of a new wallpaper yet? Something official?

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Savvas Radevic (medigeek) wrote :
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exploder (dcosner) wrote :

Savvas Radević, I have read the post. I have read twice that there was going to be a new theme too. I will believe it when I actually see it.

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Brett Alton (brett-alton-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

exploder, no need for the negative comments.

Check out Kenneth Wimmer's PPA[1] and you will see what he has change the wallpaper to something you might like.

[1] https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive

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Saivann Carignan (oxmosys) wrote :

Old wallpaper has been replaced by today intrepid updates! Setting bug status to "fix released"

Changed in ubuntu-wallpapers:
status: In Progress → Fix Released
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