Make Amarok 1.4 Packages Available in Ubuntu Repositories

Bug #331449 reported by Scott Zawalski
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: amarok

As the title says amarok in Jaunty is indeed broken. First, there is no option to install amarok 1. I believe in the direction of amarok 2 but it is not anywhere near close enough to replace 1.XX.

A few issues:

I can't import my music list, mysql to new amarok style fails entirely. Not one single song is imported correctly.

Most of the plugins we are all used to do not exist anymore in amarok 2. Similar artists? A thing of the past. The wikipedia plugin for amarok 2 is sad, great it connects to wikipedia but it is no where near on par with the old version.

Formats previously supported don't import, I would at least expect this but none of my flacs show up. Sure I can play them from the file area but it doesn't find them in a scan (bug??).

I am confused as to why it was decided amarok2 is ready to replace amarok1 when so many things are missing. We had 1.XX packages still working fine lets keep those for now (or at the very least let people install them!) until amarok 2 offers the same functionality.

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Scott Zawalski (cowbud) wrote :

I'd just like to reiterate the fact that i rescanned my whole collection and many albums are just completely missing. These are mp3s, Amarok has supported those for ages and yet it doesn't find them. I am reduced to using the file browsing side of the application to find songs that are actually in the scanned folders.

Scott Zawalski (cowbud)
description: updated
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Roderick B. Greening (roderick-greening) wrote :

KDE3 is gone from the CD, and therefore Amarok 1 has gone with it.

As well, the mp3 issue requires that you install kubuntu-restricted-extras (iirc for ffmpeg) as mp3 support is not installed by default. Amarok 2 does support mp3, after you install the required support plugins/apps. (This is a patent issue and has always been the case even with Amarok 1).

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Scott Zawalski (cowbud) wrote :

It isn't that I can't play mp3s it is that when I scan my collection random songs do not show up in it.

For example if I search for Nine Inch nails. Several CDs show up and others are just not there despite being in the same directory as the other imported NiN CDs and being the same format.

Perhaps I should file a bug upstream.

I would think we would leave kde3 in Universe still?

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Nils (nils-darktec) wrote :

Collection import from amarok 1.4.x with mysql database is broken too:

Object::connect: No such signal DatabaseImporter::importFinished() in
/build/buildd/amarok-2.0.2mysql5.1.30/amarok-2.0.2/src/databaseimporter/DatabaseImporter.cpp:36

i tried it with localhost and 127.0.0.1:

Importing downloaded album art
Failed: No tracks were imported

The MySQL access data are definitly correct.

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Michael A. Phillips (maphilli14) wrote :

Everything in my list appears proper, but I get no sound! After loading again it complains about the sound device is not available. My packages list that I carried over from Hardy had pulseaudio removed, so I'm not sure if this is the problem or not...

Can't wait for a working Amarok 2 in Jaunty!

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Sikiatriko (arturober) wrote :

Happens the same to me in Kubuntu 9.04 Beta. Amarok doesn't generate my collection, neither can import it from the mySQL database I had with Amarok 1.4

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coffeegoat (micahcasteel) wrote :

I had a similar problem to Sikiatriko, when i tried to build the collection nothing showed up, it did it's little thing where it was "scanning the collection" but nothing ever showed up in the list. After installing and reinstalling a few times I decided to check it out in aptitude. Apparently there is a dependency that isn't noted in the normal package manager:

libqt4-sql-psql

It was noted as unsatisfied in aptitude. I have no idea why it is needed, as it's noted as a Postgresql package in adept. But after I installed it everything came through perfectly. Good luck to everyone else.
PS: the auto retrieve cover art is awesome...

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Scott Zawalski (cowbud) wrote :

After hours of frustration and trying out SVN on a daily basis I installed this Bogdanb's perfect PPA of 1.4 for Jaunty.

https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa

I would strongly recommend including this in Jaunty as 2.X is very far from being ready.

One bug I am watching upstream that is still active is the import collection bug:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174269

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Nathaniel W. Turner (nturner) wrote :

Perhaps the 9.04 release notes should mention that Amarok will be replaced with a version that has some nice improvements but also a number of known regressions (and perhaps link to the PPA mentioned in the previous comment, or to this bug)?

This way, at least folks know what to expect, and perhaps some unpleasant surprises could be avoided. =)

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Tiago Cogumbreiro (cogumbreiro) wrote :

+1 on the creation of two packages.

Amarok 2 offers a totally new UI metaphor. It is a new application that simply shares the same name than Amarok 1.4.

Also it features regressions, like the lack of dynamic playlists (e.g. recently added) that existed in Amarok 1.4.

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moron (slave-codegrunt) wrote :

MTP support in Amarok 2 is currently atrocious.

- File transfers fail silently so that you end up with partial albums on the target device.

- No way to see the current space usage of the connected device (as far as I can tell).

- Broken file deletion when done via the devices tab - managed to delete the entire contents of my View due to poor GUI design (or possibly a bug, who knows?):

Under "Devices" tab choose MTP connected device (in my case Sansa View)
- expand artist listing
- highlight two or more artist, album or track entries
- right click for context menu
- choose "delete tracks"

This deletes *ALL* tracks on the device.

- Browsing through the device section of the MTP connected device causes tracks to be played seemingly randomly (arrrgh).

- No obvious way to queue multiple tracks for transfer (Amarok 1.* let you add to the current queue but Amarok 2 appears to only have a single non-recoverable queue).

This application is not ready for prime time as far as MTP devices are concerned.

Cheers

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Geoffrey De Smet (ge0ffrey) wrote :

Amarok 2 doesn't produce any sound on Jaunty. It says it can't find the sound driver/card and falls back to default which is no sound apparently.

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Tiago Cogumbreiro (cogumbreiro) wrote :

Launchpad is not a forum. Please create bug reports for each problem described thus far.

Bug #368706 asks for the creation of two packages one for Amarok 1.4 and another for Amarok 2.0.

Please refrain from stating everything that bothers you in this thread.

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mbrudka (mbrudka) wrote :
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Andrew Ash (ash211) wrote :

You all are right, in many ways Amarok 2 was not yet up to par with the 1.4 series when Jaunty was released. But as always, the developers are pushing forward in the new flexibility that the reworked code base brings, even if there are growing pains involved.

As have been enumerated in many previous places, it is infeasible to keep the 1.4 series as the official version of Amarok for K/Ubuntu as we push forward. The 1.4 series is no longer maintained -- meaning the development team has not found anyone willing to maintain the old version when the future is the 2.x series. Also, 1.4 uses the older Qt3 and kde3 libraries, which means running 1.4 on a KDE4 system involves many extra libraries and dependencies. Simply put, the 1.4 series doesn't fit well into a modern KDE4 system. Sure, it can be forced, and people do that. But it's out of place and doesn't pick up on the advantages that the kdelibs and related development platform bring.

That's certainly not to say that Amarok 2 is not making progress towards being the best media player available. Just to address a few of the above complaints: mysql db storage is now working. The wikipedia applet is rewritten and updated. Various artist support is improving. Sound issues largely have to do with Pulseaudio rather than Amarok itself. MTP and other device support is the focus of a GSoC project. Etc. Steady progress is being made and it's through the hard work of the Amarok developers.

I think most of the issue stems from shipping older versions of Amarok in the default install. Try out the new 2.1 series and I think you'll see a lot of the issues in 2.0 resolved. As far as I know, there are no plans to include older versions of Amarok in K/Ubuntu repositories, so I'm closing this bug as Won't Fix.

Changed in amarok (Ubuntu):
status: New → Won't Fix
summary: - amarok in jaunty is broken
+ Make Amarok 1.4 Packages Available in Ubuntu Repositories
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Scott Zawalski (cowbud) wrote :

I have been meaning to update this bug. SVN Amarok 2 recently had a great break through. I was able to import my MySQL song database. The widgets or are working well. The only thing I miss now is the last.fm similar artists. Other than that I would urge anyone check out the latest SVN.

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