Initial window size overlaps panels

Confirmed. Sebastien, is this a GNOME integration issue? Ideally, it seems
that it should know about the panels and size itself accordingly

This also happens to me with xchat, and also at 1600x1200. The bottom edges of
the windows are just a few pixels below the top edge of the lower panel. It is
actually a functional issue, because it becomes quite awkward to resize the
height of the window, not being able to grab the lower edge

*** Bug 8917 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

that's a metacity bug. Upstream bug report:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143145

Actually, I think there are two problems in this bug (IMO):

 - the first one is that the window should not be allowed to overlap the panel
-> metacity issue
 - the second one is that firefox should start with a smaller window (something
like 800x600)

(In reply to comment #5)
> - the first one is that the window should not be allowed to overlap the panel
> -> metacity issue

metacity is supposed to place the window to avoid this. But what to do when you
don't have
enough space between the top and bottom panel to contain the window ?

I guess it should resize the window. But is it even possible for metacity to
override the application's chosen size ?

(In reply to comment #7)
> I guess it should resize the window. But is it even possible for metacity to
> override the application's chosen size ?

That's the point, I'm not sure. It probably depends of the way used by the app to
set its size. I'll try to get details on this.

This bug doesn't seem to be getting attention upstream. Is it more common on
Ubuntu than elsewhere for some reason?

(In reply to comment #9)
> This bug doesn't seem to be getting attention upstream. Is it more common on
> Ubuntu than elsewhere for some reason?

I think it doesn't concern a lot of people (I don't remember beeing annoyed by this
in my current desktop usage for example ... )

fixed upstream

This was uploaded and fixed in Dapper's align-to-border feature.