Needs To Suggest Installing Flash When You Go To Youtube

ubufox actually _does_ automatically offer to install flash for you if you go to a website that tries to use it. The problem is youtube tries to be smart and give you a message when you don't have flash instead of just trying to use it. Due to this the trigger for installing flash can't happen.

Is there a simple few line fix to this issue? I don't know anything about Ubufox's code, but can you add something like: (pseudo-code )

if (site == www.youtube.com):
    offer_flash()

I think this is part of bigger problem with Ubuntu. For obvious reasons some users have 'discovered' how annoying and difficult for new users it can be to install multimedia and other software in Ubuntu and started Linux Mint. The Linux Mint solutions are very good, because they offer even inexperienced users with an easy way to install all that is needed for daily use (if it's not already installed by default). It should be possible to take these nifty little programsl, and bundle them with Ubuntu as well. It's no shame to learn to from others.

This is not trivially fixable as Joseph suggests (I wish it were); therefore, it cannot be considered a paper cut.

How about if on first launch Firefox displayed some trivial flash applet, a spinning circle of friends or something. Thus prompting the perfectly good flash plugin and installation routine that is already present and buggy sites such as YouTube and BBC iPlayer prevent from occurring. This would give the user the option to install a free or non-free flash player, would require no non-free software on the CD and doesn't give Ubuntu any special Flash dispensation. From then the first visit to YouTube or whatever would be totally seamless.

ubufox already does this. Please make sure you have it installed.
Also would help to know what version of ubufox is installed if it is. What version of firefox and Ubuntu are helpful

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:26 AM, John Vivirito <email address hidden> wrote:
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> ubufox already does this.

Really, well it seems the other commentators, as well as myself, seem
to know that after a fresh install of Ubuntu, if you go to Youtube you
can't watch videos "out of the box".

This is a major problem for people who are new to Ubuntu and Linux in
general as opposed to say: "Gnome Freaks".   Here is a classic blog
entry, perhaps you've read it;
http://www.bspcn.com/2008/04/28/the-great-ubuntu-girlfriend-experiment/

* The only reason it is not labeled a papercut isn't because the bug
isn't real is because it is not trivial to fix. Read the above. That
is not a reason to mark as invalid or incomplete. *

>
> Please make sure you have it installed.
> Also would help to know what version of ubufox is installed if it is. What version of firefox and Ubuntu are helpful

Gnome Freak, look, I know you know about Ubuntu.  You of all people
should know this is true of every Ubuntu release, so if I have to name
one, how about the latest: 9.04.

>
> ** Changed in: firefox
>       Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Also affects: ubufox (Ubuntu)
>   Importance: Undecided
>       Status: New
>
> ** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu)
>       Status: New => Incomplete
>
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> Needs To Suggest Installing Flash When You Go To Youtube
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387444
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:26 AM, John Vivirito <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> ubufox already does this.

Really, well it seems the other commentators, as well as myself, seem
to know that after a fresh install of Ubuntu, if you go to Youtube you
can't watch videos "out of the box".

This is a major problem for people who are new to Ubuntu and Linux in
general as opposed to say: "Gnome Freaks". Here is a classic blog
entry, perhaps you've read it;
http://www.bspcn.com/2008/04/28/the-great-ubuntu-girlfriend-experiment/

* The only reason it is not labeled a papercut isn't because the bug
isn't real is because it is not trivial to fix. Read the above. That
is not a reason to mark as invalid or incomplete. *

>
> Please make sure you have it installed.
> Also would help to know what version of ubufox is installed if it is. What version of firefox and Ubuntu are helpful

Gnome Freak, look, I know you know about Ubuntu. You of all people
should know this is true of every Ubuntu release, so if I have to name
one, how about the latest: 9.04.

ubufox triggers the plugin finder wizard ... when a website puts flash on the site. in case of youtube they use the stupid flash detection kit and dont even try to render flash content if you dont have it installed.

check out video.google.com -> that works. they do it right.

anyway. youtube offers you a link to adobe site and there you can install flash through apturl using a single click method. We consider the girlfriend experiment fixed by those two approaches. We would love to see youtube (as any other site) stop using the flash detection kit and just try to render flash. but unless they do that we cannot improve the situation further here.

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