Build-Depends dependency for cmucl cannot be satisfied (circular build-depends; needs manual bootstrapping on the buildd)

confirmed with 19a-release-20040728-9

Another one of these nasty circular build-dependencies - we'll have to get an existing binary package installed on the buildd chroots to get this built.

It actually is worse then that: a version of cmucl can only be rebuild using that same version. Bootstrapping from an older version is a complex manual process.

cmucl doesn't build in hardy as it waits on a newer cmucl.

The current version in the archive (19a-release-20040728-9) was build during hoary.
The source in hardy needs cmucl (>= 19d-20061116-1) for building.

Color me dense, but if the only way to build it is with the current version, how does one ever bootstrap the initial binary? Could this "complex manual process" not be represented in debian/rules for a full bootstrap (without a self-referential build-dep) on every upload, much like the GCC suite tends to do?

If I'm going to have to do manual builds on every new upstream release, I'm more likely to just request that we remove this package from the archive entirely, as this is just infeasible.

Given the binaries currently in the archive date back to Hoary, perhaps the time has come to simply remove the package, rather than continuing to ship mismatched binaries and source in future Ubuntu releases.

Please remove "cmucl" from the archive and add it to the sync blacklist.

Although the package is maintained in Debian, the cyclic build-depends prevents it from getting build in Ubuntu. And bootstrapping it every new upstream versions doesn't seem manageable.

The binary packages built from cmucl have no rdepends that can't be fulfilled with other packages.
The source packages has only itself as rbuilddepends.

2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO Removing candidates:
2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO cmucl 19f-20090312-1 in karmic
2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO Removed-by: Steve Langasek
2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO Comment: repeated manual bootstrapping required, not sustainable in Ubuntu; LP: #31098
2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO 1 package successfully removed.
2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO Transaction committed.
2009-05-04 07:50:10 INFO The archive will be updated in the next publishing cycle.

And blacklisted.