system monitor should be moved in accessories, don't belong in administration

thank you for a bug, that's not a bug though, the system monitor is perceived as an administration tool, that's not a bug, you should rather discuss such changes on the list where users will read your message and comment rather than on a bug where only the bug triager will comment

If it's an "administration tool" and not for administration in the sense of changing settings, it belongs to Applications -> System Tools. What makes things a little unclear, is that it's not only for _monitoring_ but you can also kill processes with it, which is more like administration. But hey, nobody wants the Terminal under System->Administration either.

Tormod: as I understand it, Applications -> System Tools is not used by Ubuntu since Ubuntu 6.06 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited)

Anyway, I agree that System Monitor is not an administration tool, probably Accessories is the better place.

I do think that bugs like this are valid: they can be referred for discussion on a mailing list but closing the bug and marking it as invalid is probably unfair to the bug reporter.

I see. Then we should file bugs for any application appearing under Applications -> System Tools. Examples are avahi-discover, and the new system-cleaner (mentioned on ubuntu-devel-discuss, but without much response nor results - it shows the bug tracker has its value for these issues, e-mail discussions just die out and are forgotten).

For me that's an usability bug and can be tracked here. As you said I reported those kind of similar bugs in the mailing list and got only one reply.

However Sebastien Bacher is certainly a more experienced bug triager than me and I'll let it to his appreciation if this bug should be confirmed.

System Monitor in Administration is in conflict with this implemented spec : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/menus-revised IMHO.

As Sebastien said please discuss such changes on a mailing list, thanks you.

I've done it already. There was nothing against this change.

there was no strong consensus to change it either