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[needs-packaging] myspell-en-ca (Canada)

Bug #120576 reported by DarkMageZ
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Bug Description

i have make a package (source .orig.tar.gz & .diff.gz included) for myspell-en-ca.
it is available at http://mirror.randumb.net/darkmagez/canada/

this package along with adding myspell-en-ca & myspell-en-au (bonuses for openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-au) to language-support-en will resolve bug #44100 and possibly others.

it is based off the myspell-en-au packaging. but i had to cut it up a bit as i failed to find a Canadian thesaurus.

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In , Matthias Klose (doko) wrote :

hyph_en_CA.dic, as found in
http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/hyph_en_CA.zip

is derived from a file licensed under the LPPL, but it violates at least
paragraph 6d of the LPPL.

Needed information: Either distribute the original file as well, or (better)
name the file and the version of the file which the derived work is based on.
The LPPL requests "Information that is sufficient to obtain a complete,
unmodified copy of the Work."

The LPPL can be found at http://www.latex-project.org/lppl.txt

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Matthias Klose (doko) wrote :

For license reasons we currently are unable to distribute this package; see the referenced upstream report.

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Changed in openoffice:
status: Unknown → New
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Brett Alton (brett-alton-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Can we not just install en_US by default until there is a workaround. Having a non-working dictionary for OpenOffice.org when you select Canada as your country is troublesome.

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komputes (komputes) wrote :

Confirmed. I am also not able to install a canadian thesaurus.

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In , Stefan-baltzer (stefan-baltzer) wrote :

SBA: Confirming 21 sub-issues of issue 74283 at once.
I believe that doko did the right thing and could/should have set the issues to
NEW right after submitting (Just like all "CanConfirm rights owners" do when
submitting issues)

Thus I beieve that taking a second look at EACH of these files is not worth the
effort. The state "Unconfirmed" is irritating queries used in daily QA work.

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater)
Changed in openoffice:
status: New → Confirmed
Fabián Rodríguez (magicfab)
description: updated
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Peter Whittaker (pwwnow) wrote :

Two comments:

1.Can we have a lawyer look at this? AFAICT, and IANAL, the dictionaries used by Linux in general and Ubuntu specifically, are simply lists, or compilations. Generally speaking, courts have held that compilations are not copyrightable - or more precisely, that the facts contained in the list - are not copyrightable. See Rural Vs Feist in the US, Nine Vs Ice TV in Australia, etc.

If it is the case that lists of words cannot be copyrightable, then neither the LGPL nor the LPPL can apply to the distribution of the list of words, since these licenses are themselves based on copyright. Again, IANAL. Or at least, someone can take the exact same list of words, reorder them if they want, then redistribute them.

Perhaps a lawyer will look at this and conclude "interesting, a judge might agree", in which we are no further ahead. But if a lawyer concludes "absolutely, that is spot on", then we have a way forward.

2. Why on earth is this marked wishlist? It's a bug! I am Canadian and this ain't no wishlist item, it is an absolute showstopper that impacts my ability to work (and I write documents for a living!).

My choices are 1) export as doc and spell in MS Word, yay, ain't that grand, 2) use another dictionary close to the Canadian, e.g., the British (NOT the American) and hope that I notice those Canadianisms that aren't going to be in the British dictionary, 3) use the awful install process described that one has to stumble upon out of sheer luck.

None of these are acceptable workarounds and given that this bug impacts the ability of people to do real work and use Ubuntu exclusively (my daughter emails her school projects to my wife so that she can spell check them under Word, since we haven't converted her yet!), it is a real bug, not a wishlist item.

Making it wishlist is akin to closing our eyes and hoping it will go away. It won't. Not until someone fixes it. It's a bug. It needs to be fixed. Not wished away as an enhancement.

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In , Mechtilde (mechtilde) wrote :

no hyphenation in Source of OOO320_m8

Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater)
Changed in debian:
status: New → Fix Released
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In , Pfg (pfg) wrote :

The dictionary component was removed as part of the IP clearance process.

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Jörg Frings-Fürst (jff-de) wrote :

not found
change status to Invalid

Changed in ubuntu:
status: Confirmed → Invalid
Bug Watch Updater (bug-watch-updater)
Changed in openoffice:
importance: Unknown → Low
status: Confirmed → Fix Released
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